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We discuss several reasons to doubt skeptical theism, including Paul Draper’s objection, phenomenal conservatism, divine silence during tragedies, Pandora’s box, and moral paralysis.
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SHOWNOTES: counterapologetics.blubrry.net/2021/03/03/ca81-skeptical-theism
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00:00-03:32 Evidential arguments from evil
03:33-06:48 The theological premise
06:49-09:17 Skeptical theism
09:18-13:32 Concrete examples of gratuitous suffering
13:33-15:31 Draper’s objection
15:32-17:28 Phenomenal conservatism
17:29-21:02 Moral unintelligibility
21:03-23:00 Divine silence during tragedies
23:01-30:25 Pandora’s box, reliable cognitive faculties, & moral paralysis
30:26-36:12 Conclusion
We discuss several reasons to doubt skeptical theism, including Paul Draper’s objection, phenomenal conservatism, divine silence during tragedies, Pandora’s box, and moral paralysis.
https://linktr.ee/emersongreen
SHOWNOTES: counterapologetics.blubrry.net/2021/03/03/ca81-skeptical-theism
Follow on Twitter @waldenpod and @OnPanpsychism
Listen to and review Counter Apologetics: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/counter-apologetics/id1273573417
Listen to Walden Pod: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/walden-pod/id1474408172
Support Emerson at Patreon.com/counter or /waldenpod
emersongreenblog.wordpress.com
/ / /
00:00-03:32 Evidential arguments from evil
03:33-06:48 The theological premise
06:49-09:17 Skeptical theism
09:18-13:32 Concrete examples of gratuitous suffering
13:33-15:31 Draper’s objection
15:32-17:28 Phenomenal conservatism
17:29-21:02 Moral unintelligibility
21:03-23:00 Divine silence during tragedies
23:01-30:25 Pandora’s box, reliable cognitive faculties, & moral paralysis
30:26-36:12 Conclusion








![Widespread Theistic Belief is Evidence for Theism
I joined @DryApologist and @johnbuck4008 to speak about the common consent argument, which is typically dismissed as fallacious without much consideration. However, I think the fact that most people in recorded history have believed in something godlike is some evidence favoring the existence of the divine. We discuss why thats the case, as well as the only good response to the argument: the evolutionary debunking response.
Defending the argument from widespread theistic belief: https://youtu.be/lF6Z7uKiHpQ (There are plenty of objections you may have thought of that didnt come up in this video. Theyre probably discussed in the longer video linked here ^ )
How did religion evolve? https://youtu.be/ARPxNYNgiSc
Full conversation with Dry Apologist, John Buck, and Chris Rhodes: https://www.youtube.com/live/NgwBQ0EwXU8?feature=share
Linktree: https://linktr.ee/emersongreen
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“[Ad populum] is the ‘fallacy’ of believing something because most people believe it. But what exactly is supposed to be wrong with that? . . . Maybe the idea is that most people believing p is irrelevant to whether p is true. I.e., if most people believe it, that doesn’t mean it is more likely to be correct. Problem: This is obviously wrong. If most people believe something, that obviously does make it more likely to be correct than if most people don’t believe it. If most of our beliefs weren’t true, the human species would die out pretty much immediately. Sometimes, people elaborate on this ‘fallacy’ by citing examples of beliefs that were once widely held but were false – e.g., that the sun orbits the Earth. So let me now just mention a few typical examples of beliefs that are widely held: Dogs exist. It’s generally lighter in the daytime than at night. The sky is blue, not red, green, or yellow. There are more than three human beings in existence. Human beings commonly have beliefs and desires. Putting your hand in a fire hurts. Six is more than two. The Earth has existed for more than five minutes. When you drop rocks near the surface of the Earth, they generally fall. . . . I’m sure you can extend that list for a long time. Now, which would you say there are more of: Widely-held beliefs that are true, or ones that are false?”
Michael Huemer (Knowledge, Reality, and Value) Widespread Theistic Belief is Evidence for Theism](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RxW8mlvQs5c/mqdefault.jpg)

