zallard1 | Punch Out!! (Wii) - Piston Hondo [0:33.76] (WR) @zallard1 | Uploaded September 2021 | Updated October 2024, 1 hour ago.
Been stonewalled by TD Hippo, so I started doing Hondo again, and just like Contender Disco Kid, I've somehow managed to completely skip over 33.82 and landed a 33.76 instead, which finally matches the WR/TAS for this fight. I've also managed to do this with a completely different phase 1 compared to Pottoww & Nolan's run of this fight, just because I felt that practicing this new phase 1 would be best for me in the long run for full game runs (read the description in my 33.88 for more info on this: youtube.com/watch?v=nefYQGGl7yc).
Landing this fight was tough, especially since the other night I had lost a run that I was certain was on frame perfect pace at the final counter in phase 3. It was on the 3rd 2:47 I had gotten since I started these attempts, so it sucked that I could've ended it really early again like Disco, but missed the final piece.
I didn't feel deterred by this though, just that I needed to do literally what I just did again, except hit that last counter along with the rest. If anything, it just confirmed that my progress was paying off. Today, I had this fight completely dialed in, because I was getting 2:47's left and right, and all the practice from getting the 33.88 was paying off too, because I was getting to the 2 counters at the end of phase 2 with regularity now. When I landed this fight, I knew with 100% accuracy that I hit that counter in phase 3 frame perfectly, and since phase 1 was perfect due to being a 2:47, meant that if I had gotten a frame perfect phase 2 like in the 33.88, this would be it, and thankfully it was!
Let's get to the fight itself. I looked into the optimal time to skip the cutscene by doing a sort of "binary search" with when I skip the cutscene, then TASing phase 1 until I got 2:47. In pinpointing that location, I now know that skipping the cutscene roughly where I did in this video will enable you to still get 2:47's. I try to counter the jabs in this fight by throwing a jab as soon as I hear his eyebrows, although I react too fast for this to be super consistent for me, so I try to hesitate ever so slightly to compensate for this, and it works decently while still being frame perfect often. Instead of using the buffer that Mystery found, I do a pseudo buffer that's really similar, where instead of a same sided punch after the jab counter, I do an *opposite* side punch, which is 3 frames faster.
I have to intentionally waste 1 frame somewhere for this buffer to work, so I wait until Mac is fully centered before I throw the punch. If Hondo blocks the punch and doesn't throw the hook, the punch landed correctly, but if he winds up to throw the hook, then you were too late. Likewise, if Hondo blocks the punch but still throws the hook, then you've thrown the punch too early. This cancel is frame perfect, so it's quite difficult to land consistently. After the cancel, I use pseudo buffers to hit the next cancel, and the star punch for the instant knockdown. The cues I use for when to start these ducks are from me looking at his gloves.
As soon as I see Hondo's gloves fully raised, I hesitate very slightly, then duck into a punch to cancel his 2nd jab. When I see his gloves *begin* to move after that cancel, I duck again and buffer that into a star punch. Because everything in phase 1 was landed frame perfectly, this ends up being a 2:47.
Phase 2 requires getting a star with a delayed jab off of Hondo's uppercut, and I throw that star as soon as Hondo's "EH?" noise finishes. Then you have to do a *very* delayed star punch in order to make his next attack come out faster. For this, I use a pseudo buffer and time a duck as soon as I see Hondo start to move after my jab landed. This delayed star also works to make the in-game timer tick down at a slower speed (10% speed) than if you were to throw the punch immediately (30% speed).
He follows this up with 2 jabs that come out immediately if the star was timed correctly. These 2 jabs are probably my least favorite punches in the fight, as I've lost some really good runs to at least one of these jabs due to how awkward it is for me to be consistent at them. Once you gather your 2 stars, you can just throw them immediately for knockdown #2.
For phase 3, Hondo is forced to do the Hondo rush pattern since he's been knocked down twice before a minute, which only requires you to do a single counter to finish the fight. I time this punch immediately after he stops talking, and it usually ends up being frame perfect more often than not.
The stats that I have for this fight don't really tell the whole picture, since I spent a decent chunk of time drilling the new phase 1 with the hook cancel buffer that wastes a frame, but here's all the details that I deemed worth tallying for this fight:
Completed sub-34 Hondo fights:
33.94 - 3
33.88 - 3
33.76 - 1
Total rollover phase 1's (2:47 barely becoming 2:46 as star lands): 46
Total frame perfect phase 1's landed (2:47's): 16
Anyways, thanks for watching!
Been stonewalled by TD Hippo, so I started doing Hondo again, and just like Contender Disco Kid, I've somehow managed to completely skip over 33.82 and landed a 33.76 instead, which finally matches the WR/TAS for this fight. I've also managed to do this with a completely different phase 1 compared to Pottoww & Nolan's run of this fight, just because I felt that practicing this new phase 1 would be best for me in the long run for full game runs (read the description in my 33.88 for more info on this: youtube.com/watch?v=nefYQGGl7yc).
Landing this fight was tough, especially since the other night I had lost a run that I was certain was on frame perfect pace at the final counter in phase 3. It was on the 3rd 2:47 I had gotten since I started these attempts, so it sucked that I could've ended it really early again like Disco, but missed the final piece.
I didn't feel deterred by this though, just that I needed to do literally what I just did again, except hit that last counter along with the rest. If anything, it just confirmed that my progress was paying off. Today, I had this fight completely dialed in, because I was getting 2:47's left and right, and all the practice from getting the 33.88 was paying off too, because I was getting to the 2 counters at the end of phase 2 with regularity now. When I landed this fight, I knew with 100% accuracy that I hit that counter in phase 3 frame perfectly, and since phase 1 was perfect due to being a 2:47, meant that if I had gotten a frame perfect phase 2 like in the 33.88, this would be it, and thankfully it was!
Let's get to the fight itself. I looked into the optimal time to skip the cutscene by doing a sort of "binary search" with when I skip the cutscene, then TASing phase 1 until I got 2:47. In pinpointing that location, I now know that skipping the cutscene roughly where I did in this video will enable you to still get 2:47's. I try to counter the jabs in this fight by throwing a jab as soon as I hear his eyebrows, although I react too fast for this to be super consistent for me, so I try to hesitate ever so slightly to compensate for this, and it works decently while still being frame perfect often. Instead of using the buffer that Mystery found, I do a pseudo buffer that's really similar, where instead of a same sided punch after the jab counter, I do an *opposite* side punch, which is 3 frames faster.
I have to intentionally waste 1 frame somewhere for this buffer to work, so I wait until Mac is fully centered before I throw the punch. If Hondo blocks the punch and doesn't throw the hook, the punch landed correctly, but if he winds up to throw the hook, then you were too late. Likewise, if Hondo blocks the punch but still throws the hook, then you've thrown the punch too early. This cancel is frame perfect, so it's quite difficult to land consistently. After the cancel, I use pseudo buffers to hit the next cancel, and the star punch for the instant knockdown. The cues I use for when to start these ducks are from me looking at his gloves.
As soon as I see Hondo's gloves fully raised, I hesitate very slightly, then duck into a punch to cancel his 2nd jab. When I see his gloves *begin* to move after that cancel, I duck again and buffer that into a star punch. Because everything in phase 1 was landed frame perfectly, this ends up being a 2:47.
Phase 2 requires getting a star with a delayed jab off of Hondo's uppercut, and I throw that star as soon as Hondo's "EH?" noise finishes. Then you have to do a *very* delayed star punch in order to make his next attack come out faster. For this, I use a pseudo buffer and time a duck as soon as I see Hondo start to move after my jab landed. This delayed star also works to make the in-game timer tick down at a slower speed (10% speed) than if you were to throw the punch immediately (30% speed).
He follows this up with 2 jabs that come out immediately if the star was timed correctly. These 2 jabs are probably my least favorite punches in the fight, as I've lost some really good runs to at least one of these jabs due to how awkward it is for me to be consistent at them. Once you gather your 2 stars, you can just throw them immediately for knockdown #2.
For phase 3, Hondo is forced to do the Hondo rush pattern since he's been knocked down twice before a minute, which only requires you to do a single counter to finish the fight. I time this punch immediately after he stops talking, and it usually ends up being frame perfect more often than not.
The stats that I have for this fight don't really tell the whole picture, since I spent a decent chunk of time drilling the new phase 1 with the hook cancel buffer that wastes a frame, but here's all the details that I deemed worth tallying for this fight:
Completed sub-34 Hondo fights:
33.94 - 3
33.88 - 3
33.76 - 1
Total rollover phase 1's (2:47 barely becoming 2:46 as star lands): 46
Total frame perfect phase 1's landed (2:47's): 16
Anyways, thanks for watching!
![Punch Out!! (Wii) - Piston Hondo [0:33.76] (WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b9TeA4fKSRY/hqdefault.jpg "Punch Out!! (Wii) - Piston Hondo [0:33.76] (WR)
Been stonewalled by TD Hippo, so I started doing Hondo again, and just like Contender Disco Kid, Ive somehow managed to completely skip over 33.82 and landed a 33.76 instead, which finally matches the WR/TAS for this fight. Ive also managed to do this with a completely different phase 1 compared to Pottoww & Nolans run of this fight, just because I felt that practicing this new phase 1 would be best for me in the long run for full game runs (read the description in my 33.88 for more info on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nefYQGGl7yc).
Landing this fight was tough, especially since the other night I had lost a run that I was certain was on frame perfect pace at the final counter in phase 3. It was on the 3rd 2:47 I had gotten since I started these attempts, so it sucked that I couldve ended it really early again like Disco, but missed the final piece.
I didnt feel deterred by this though, just that I needed to do literally what I just did again, except hit that last counter along with the rest. If anything, it just confirmed that my progress was paying off. Today, I had this fight completely dialed in, because I was getting 2:47s left and right, and all the practice from getting the 33.88 was paying off too, because I was getting to the 2 counters at the end of phase 2 with regularity now. When I landed this fight, I knew with 100% accuracy that I hit that counter in phase 3 frame perfectly, and since phase 1 was perfect due to being a 2:47, meant that if I had gotten a frame perfect phase 2 like in the 33.88, this would be it, and thankfully it was!
Lets get to the fight itself. I looked into the optimal time to skip the cutscene by doing a sort of binary search with when I skip the cutscene, then TASing phase 1 until I got 2:47. In pinpointing that location, I now know that skipping the cutscene roughly where I did in this video will enable you to still get 2:47s. I try to counter the jabs in this fight by throwing a jab as soon as I hear his eyebrows, although I react too fast for this to be super consistent for me, so I try to hesitate ever so slightly to compensate for this, and it works decently while still being frame perfect often. Instead of using the buffer that Mystery found, I do a pseudo buffer thats really similar, where instead of a same sided punch after the jab counter, I do an *opposite* side punch, which is 3 frames faster.
I have to intentionally waste 1 frame somewhere for this buffer to work, so I wait until Mac is fully centered before I throw the punch. If Hondo blocks the punch and doesnt throw the hook, the punch landed correctly, but if he winds up to throw the hook, then you were too late. Likewise, if Hondo blocks the punch but still throws the hook, then youve thrown the punch too early. This cancel is frame perfect, so its quite difficult to land consistently. After the cancel, I use pseudo buffers to hit the next cancel, and the star punch for the instant knockdown. The cues I use for when to start these ducks are from me looking at his gloves.
As soon as I see Hondos gloves fully raised, I hesitate very slightly, then duck into a punch to cancel his 2nd jab. When I see his gloves *begin* to move after that cancel, I duck again and buffer that into a star punch. Because everything in phase 1 was landed frame perfectly, this ends up being a 2:47.
Phase 2 requires getting a star with a delayed jab off of Hondos uppercut, and I throw that star as soon as Hondos EH? noise finishes. Then you have to do a *very* delayed star punch in order to make his next attack come out faster. For this, I use a pseudo buffer and time a duck as soon as I see Hondo start to move after my jab landed. This delayed star also works to make the in-game timer tick down at a slower speed (10% speed) than if you were to throw the punch immediately (30% speed).
He follows this up with 2 jabs that come out immediately if the star was timed correctly. These 2 jabs are probably my least favorite punches in the fight, as Ive lost some really good runs to at least one of these jabs due to how awkward it is for me to be consistent at them. Once you gather your 2 stars, you can just throw them immediately for knockdown #2.
For phase 3, Hondo is forced to do the Hondo rush pattern since hes been knocked down twice before a minute, which only requires you to do a single counter to finish the fight. I time this punch immediately after he stops talking, and it usually ends up being frame perfect more often than not.
The stats that I have for this fight dont really tell the whole picture, since I spent a decent chunk of time drilling the new phase 1 with the hook cancel buffer that wastes a frame, but heres all the details that I deemed worth tallying for this fight:
Completed sub-34 Hondo fights:
33.94 - 3
33.88 - 3
33.76 - 1
Total rollover phase 1s (2:47 barely becoming 2:46 as star lands): 46
Total frame perfect phase 1s landed (2:47s): 16
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Don Flamenco 2 [1:19.82]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bCdVQX7FJVk/hqdefault.jpg "Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Don Flamenco 2 [1:19.82]
Mixing in some Don Flamenco 2 attempts with my Bull 1 attempts, and got my first sub 1:20 fight! This fight is super random. I had to get a random star within the first 2 opportunities in phase 1 (each random star in this fight is 1/16 each).
Then for phase 2, I needed the first punch to reward me a random star, then I needed a good refill for phase 2 (which is 3/8 for mid refill and 1/8 for best refill; I got best). Finally, I needed a 1/8 refill in phase 3 to finish the fight. This final refill ONLY happens if you dont have full health for the fight, which is why I pressed select before the fight (select on the first round reduces your HP by half).")
![Sunset Riders (Arcade) - Deathless Cormano Speedrun [14:34] (WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bVFjSHsaiVE/hqdefault.jpg "Sunset Riders (Arcade) - Deathless Cormano Speedrun [14:34] (WR)
This was played on an original Sunset Riders arcade PCB on the H.A.S. SuperGun. I did my run on default difficulty settings which I show at the end of the video (I may consider hardest in the future). This was also recorded through an S-Video connection because my setup cannot support RGB signals at the moment.
So the board that I have is the US version, which differs from the EAC version that I used in MAME in a few different ways. First off, the game gives you no extra lives at 20,000 and 200,000 points, which makes getting a 1 credit clear (1cc) quite a bit more difficult by comparison.
Secondly, the game removed the 1UP items completely from stage 6, which got swapped with a gold pickup instead.
It is also worth noting that MAME runs this game at an even 60 frames a second, whereas this board appears to run at about 59.1866 or so (this was captured at 29.5933 interlaced). Because of this difference, runs on arcade hardware will be at an artificial time disadvantage when compared directly to emulator runs.
With all that being said, this run is a huge improvement over my previous runs. Despite the artificial time disadvantage, this run handily beats the 14:35 I set on MAME a while back!
This run pulls off a new quick kill on the first boss that saves upwards of 4+ seconds since the last run Ive gotten. The rest of this run was just pretty solid, outside of a silly mistake on stage 6 where I didnt take care of some enemies that got to shoot arrows at me, which made me have to stop for a moment.
Also, shoutouts to Scoop for the adjustment on the 2nd half of the final stage! That really simplifies the difficulty of that part significantly!
Anyways, enjoy the run!")
![Splatterhouse 2 - Speed Run [15:34]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bZwiYBx2nBQ/hqdefault.jpg "Splatterhouse 2 - Speed Run [15:34]
I rerouted a good chunk of this game recently, which gives me several possible seconds of time save compared to what we were doing before! Improved my PB/WR by nearly 2 seconds, ending up with a high 15:34! I still want to push this closer to 15:30, but its gonna be tough to get it all together in one clean run. That being said, I think I can do better before I put the game back down for other projects again!
Also, this was captured off of an S-Video modded model 1 Sega Genesis with an original cartridge of Splatterhouse 2.")
![Punch Out!! (Wii) - Soda Popinski [0:42.72] (WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bj_XFT8ycCY/hqdefault.jpg "Punch Out!! (Wii) - Soda Popinski [0:42.72] (WR)
Wasnt planning on doing a lot of attempts on this fight tonight, but within 30 minutes of attempts, I tied the previous record of 42.78, with the one mistake being obviously the phase 3 star punch before the TKO recovery. I was crushed by this, but I knew my execution was on point, because the part after the TKO recovery was frame perfect... so I kept doing attempts.
A mere 13 minutes later, I finally did it; I matched the TAS time for contender Soda Popinski! This requires hitting all 9 frame perfect inputs in order to match this time, as well as win a random event.
Speaking of which, this is one of two fights in this game that requires a technique called the TKO Recovery which, as the name suggests, is when Mac resists being TKOd and gets back on his feet instead of going down for the expected TKO. This happens completely randomly, estimated to be anywhere from 15-25% on average. This makes optimizing this fight far more difficult than it would otherwise be, considering 75%+ of your attempts wont make it past this point. Champions mode is used for this fight to skip his rage uppercuts whenever he gets up from a knockdown (this mode gives Mac 1HP, and can only be unlocked by getting at lest 10 victories in Last Stand). It also has Soda throw a jab whenever you get up from a knockdown, which can be countered for a star!
Lets get into the fight. The first thing thats done is a delayed gut punch off of Sodas first jab, which if done correctly, yields a star. If you follow that up with a delayed jab, then throw a star as hes reeling, Soda will be instantly knocked down!
Phase 2 involves taking a knockdown to skip Sodas rage uppercuts, then getting up and countering Sodas jab for a star. Off of this counter, I buffer 2 ducks into alternating punches to hit Soda on the first possible frame as he finishes drinking his soda and walks back in, which weirdly enough, rewards a star. The instant knockdown done in phase 1 works in subsequent phases... but will require an additional star each time its done (this time requires 2). This particular attack also lets me do a delayed jab to get him into position for the instant knockdown too, since countering his bottle would just make Soda mad and rush in for a sequence of rage uppercuts.
Phase 3 has Mac take his 2nd knockdown, to which Mac gets up and counters Sodas scripted jab. Now, this delayed star punch needs to be timed in a very specific way such that Sodas next attacks gets skipped. If you throw the star punch too early, then Soda will do slow hooks after Macs next knockdown, which instantly ends the attempt. The visual cue that youve thrown it correctly is if Soda just barely gets completely centered as the star punch lands.
After the star punch, Soda reels to the back of the ring and runs back to Mac to throw more rage uppercuts, which Mac takes. This is where luck comes into play, because thats Macs 3rd knockdown, meaning we need the lucky TKO recovery. Thankfully in this run I get it!
Once Mac is back up on his feet, counter Sodas scripted jab, and counter Sodas bottle. This will make Soda mad and hell approach you to do rage uppercuts, however a delayed star punch will hit him if you time it just right, and a double star punch here is just enough to take him out for good.
This record has finally reached its peak for this strategy after 11+ years of it existing. Im so glad to have been able to take it down after so many years of playing this game. The final tally of statistics for attempts that got to the TKO recovery opportunity chance, vs actual successful recoveries, is 41 to 167, which gives an approximate probability of 24.55% for TKO recoveries for me.
Here are some additional stats on this grind:
Mac knockdown time on failed attempts:
33.99 - 20
33.93 - 6
Completed Soda fights:
42.96 - 3
42.90 - 2
42.89 - 2
42.83 - 1
42.78 - 2
42.72 - 1
Not sure whats next on the list, possibly either Title Defense Soda, or Title Defense King Hippo since I ended up finding the optimal strategies for both of those.
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Sunset Riders (Arcade) (US) - Deathless Cormano Speedrun [14:48]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bq6Vxd_aHW4/hqdefault.jpg "Sunset Riders (Arcade) (US) - Deathless Cormano Speedrun [14:48]
This was played on an original Sunset Riders arcade PCB on the H.A.S. supergun. I did my run on default difficulty settings which I show at the end of the video (I may consider hardest in the future). This was recorded through an S-Video connection because my setup cannot support RGB signals at the moment.
So the board that I have is the US version, which differs from the EAC version that I used in MAME in a few different ways. First off, the game gives you no extra lives at 20,000 and 200,000 points, which makes getting a 1 credit clear (1cc) quite a bit more difficult.
Secondly, the game removed the 1UP items completely from stage 6, which got swapped with a gold pickup instead.
Finally, there are a few subtle differences in the way the game functions, like Chief Scalpem seems way more likely to melee you twice instead of once, which changes my approach on that fight quite a bit. Also, they added a dynamite girl on the upward slope with the rocks tumbling down in the final stage, which is SUPER inconvenient to avoid the dropped dynamite at.
It is also worth noting that MAME runs this game at an even 60 frames a second, whereas this board appears to run at about 59.1866 or so (this was captured at 29.5933 interlaced). Because of this difference, runs on arcade hardware will be at an artificial time disadvantage when compared directly to emulator runs.
With all that being said, this run improves upon my 14:49 by literally 4 frames, which was just barely enough to roll down my time to a 14:48. Pretty good run with a slightly slower final phase on Richard Rose. Definitely improving overall though! Hopefully looking for a big improvement soon!")
![Splatterhouse 2 - Speed Run [15:28] (WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cPcgQr35eeY/hqdefault.jpg "Splatterhouse 2 - Speed Run [15:28] (WR)
I missed the new TAS trick on the stage 6 boss that I found (this cost 43 frames). Outside of that, this run was pretty much exactly what I was looking for! Ill be happy to shelf this game for quite a while with a run like this!
Also, this was captured off of an S-Video modded model 1 Sega Genesis with an original cartridge of Splatterhouse 2.")
![Punch-Out!! (NES) - Mr. Dream [2:06.61]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cYz-meKYF9M/hqdefault.jpg "Punch-Out!! (NES) - Mr. Dream [2:06.61]
Ive been periodically doing attempts at getting the phase 3 uppercut on Mike Tyson, which is a very luck reliant fight. I had some bad luck earlier today on Tyson, so for laughs, I put in the Mr. Dream version of Punch Out, and got a 0:53 phase 1 within 6 minutes of trying LOL.
This is still behind my Tyson PB of 2:05.82, but I figured since I never play this version, itd be fine to upload, since this is technically my Mr. Dream PB even though its considered equivalent to the Tyson fight. Besides, this is one of the only Punch Out fights in the series Ive never uploaded, so I figured this would be fine for now.
This fight required me hitting 22 frame perfect punches, but I also implemented ducks in phase 1 in order to attempt to get Dream to throw an uppercut in the 3rd phase. I got bad luck in phase 2 to where that didnt really pan out, and got a very weird phase 3 pattern where Dream alternated punches every time. I got some bad delays between some of them, which is the main difference between this fight and the 2:05.82 on Tyson.
Anyways, Im still doing attempts from time to time on my Twitch stream! This fight was highlighted here if anyone would like to watch with live commentary (or to find my Twitch channel for future attempts): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1016064083
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Piston Honda 2 [0:39.99]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/d5Q0aHIs2_A/hqdefault.jpg "Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Piston Honda 2 [0:39.99]
This run was done on an original cartridge of Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! on an NES that was modded with the Tim Worthington NESRGB kit. For some more in depth information about my RGB setup, you can check out this pastebin here: https://pastebin.com/4vZM3wA7
Additionally, Ive decided to include a non-stretched version of this fight in an unlisted video. If youd like to learn more about why Im including this too, you can check out the description in the second video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGCdCH-gx3A
Heres a far more interesting upload for this game compared to my recent ones, because Ive finally landed a sub 40 second time on Honda 2! I took a huge break from this fight because I just wasnt feeling good about my execution or consistency on it back when I did attempts in April 2020. I recently came back to this fight because Tysons luck has been super awful for me, and this fight ended up being appealing for being a password character and relatively favorable odds for this games luck standards.
I did this offline, as I was actually intending to sleep earlier than usual last night, but it didnt work out so well, so I ended up doing Honda 2 attempts until I felt tired, but I unexpectedly got a PB on Honda 2 like 25 minutes in! Ive uploaded the attempt session here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVfQIfx85oA
This fight is extremely complicated and brutally difficult. Unlike the strategy that I used for my 40.00, this is the unadulterated, unfiltered TAS strategy on this fight.
For the entirety of the first phase of the fight, you CANNOT lose more than 1 frame across the ENTIRE knockdown. If you lose 2 or more frames collectively throughout the first knockdown, then Honda will block your face jab at the start of phase 2.
This fight heavily uses two techniques, one of which is called a dizzy destroyer, which is a 2 punch combo that involves exploiting Honda 2 & Machos guard in a very specific way. Honda 2 follows your gloves when you tap up, which leaves him open for a gut punch, then you are capable of holding up and punch for an immediate jab after, which will successfully land only on the condition that you let go of up while Macs punch animation is going off, but before the punch actually connects.
The second technique is called a max damage uppercut. This is where you throw a star punch and tap up in a special way in the Honda 2 & Macho fights where the opponent is busy trying to follow your guard, but cannot block their face in time before the uppercut lands, which results in dealing more damage than usual, as well as preventing them from dodging the uppercut outright.
For Honda 2 in particular, there is an addendum to this, because Honda 2s max damage uppercut has a sizable window where you can throw the star punch, but there is a single frame window thats several frames before that sizable window where you can still have the max damage uppercut work. I need to go for specifically these frame perfect max damage uppercuts.
Phew, lets finally talk about the fight itself. The fight opens with 2 dizzy destroyer combos, which is the fastest way to land 4 successful hits, which will always result in your first guaranteed star in this fight. Immediately throw a frame perfect max damage uppercut, followed by another dizzy destroyer to get 2 more stars (1st one is 50% likely, the 2nd is guaranteed), then hold up while Honda 2 is recovering from the previous star punch, and as soon as you see Hondas sprite fully centered while he starts to do his eyebrow pattern, throw a star and IMMEDIATELY let go of up. If youre reasonably fast, this star should deal max damage as he attempts to throw a punch, and you should be able to knock him down at 23 seconds with a buffered jab.
The start of phase 2 is just holding up + punch, then letting go of up as soon as Macs punch animation starts. If and only if you are on TAS pace, this punch will land and you will get a guaranteed star. From here, throw a frame perfect max damage uppercut, then follow it up with another dizzy destroyer combo, then throwing another frame perfect max damage star for a knockdown at 36 seconds. For this to work, you NEED the good health refill (50% likely) and the lucky star on the final face jab (also 50% likely). This puts the total odds of this fight to 1/8 likely.
Phase 3 consists of landing the final star punch for an instant knockdown since Honda got up on a 1 count. When throwing the star, you need to do the max damage input, and you can tell if its perfect if Honda lowers his guard near the very end of the star punch.
Compared to McHazards TAS, I lost 1 frame on the 2nd dizzy destroyer in phase 1, and 1 frame on the dizzy destroyer in phase 2; everything else in the fight was frame perfect. I am currently 1 frame away from the 39.97 world record, currently held by Summoningsalt and Jlet. Hopefully Ill get more 39s soon and finally get this fight done once and for all.
Thanks for watching!")
![Breakfast Brawl - Real Time Speed Run [1:59.117]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dLyJ_vk61kQ/hqdefault.jpg "Breakfast Brawl - Real Time Speed Run [1:59.117]
This was a flash game put out by Dannon as an advertisement for their Frusion smoothies quite a few years back. Needless to say, this is one of the greatest advertisements ever and I wish more ads were in the form of Punch Out games lol
This time, I decided to do a real time speedrun of the game, where I start timing on the frame I see the title screen go away, and end time on the frame the referee says TKO on Papi. With this timing scheme, I just barely get a sub 2 minute time. The strategies are the same, however the referee counts now matter. The first count can range anywhere from 4-6, and the 2nd count can be anywhere from 7-9.
My fight counts were 5-7 for Moe, 5-7 for Dave, and 4-9 for Papi. This means I got the 5th best possible time loss from ref counts out of 13 possible combinations, which is slightly above average luck. I also made it a point to match the in-game time of 1:14 for this run, similar to the previous video I uploaded. I also mash through the title screen, controls, and between fight screens as fast as possible, which makes it basically impossible to read any of those screens unless you pause precisely on them, or go frame by frame.
As far as mechanics go, all opponents have guards similar to Mike Tysons Punch Out and Super Punch Out, however, their guard alternates high and low on their own without being possible to manipulate. This guard shifting will also carry over to subsequent phases, which is important to always keep track of so you can hit opponents as fast as possible. You also get Frusionators (aka star punches) from landing 3 consecutive punches in a short period of time.
Its also worth noting that unlike any other Punch Out games, buffering jabs or hooks after youve hit an opponent once is VERY BAD because as an opponent is reeling from a previous punch, they have some frames where theyre intangible, so buffering a subsequent punch will miss outright, therefore every punch aside the first one in each phase must be timed carefully.
Lets get into the fights...
Ray Zinbran (10 seconds) - This fight shows off the standard 10 second knockdown that will be a key part of every fight from this point forward. If possible, its faster to use a Frusionator as one of your 3 required punches in order to get a second Frusionator.
Moe Finntop (20 seconds) - The first phase is the exact same strategy as Ray Zinbran,, but if you are very close to frame perfect, Moes guard will be in the wrong spot to start the next phase, so keep that in mind. Start phase 2 with 2 low punches with a high punch to get a Frusionator, then a jab with 2 low punches to get a 2nd Frusionator, the let a Frusionator rip. Now for the phase 3 Frusionator, you cant buffer this, you actually have to time it exactly as Moe is fully centered to finish him off.
Dave A sausage, egg & cheese sandwich Jenkins (24 seconds) - This is the hardest fight in the game, and by far has the most strict execution to get his goal time. Starting with the standard 10 second knockdown will reveal that Dave has way more HP than anyone else, so instead of throwing the 2nd Frusionator, throw 2 hooks into a jab to collect another Frusionator, then send him to the mat with one. If you are too fast on the first 6 punches, your 7th will miss with this strategy, so be very mindful of that. For phase 2, throw 2 low punches into 2 supers and you should take him down a 2nd time. Phase 3 is just 2 jabs into 1 hook, and a Frusionator to hopefully finish him at 1:36 left on the clock.
Papi C. Debagel - Papis guard is way faster, so the 10 second knockdown needs to be adjusted for it, but itll still work since his HP is low like the first 2 fights. Start with 2 jabs into low to get the first Frusionator, then do the EXACT same sequence to get the 2nd Frusionator, then throw one for the 10 second knockdown. Similar to Moe, you want 2 Frusionators immediately, then throw one to send him to the mat. After timing the phase 3 Frusionator, hell be down for the TKO at 1:40.
Anyways hope you enjoyed this, thanks for watching!")
