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Who lives longer and gets stronger? People who get protein from meat or plants?
References:
Protein is not protein. Here's why: youtu.be/hJNF2_dCWkg
Eat, Drink, and Be Healthy: The Harvard Medical School Guide to Healthy Eating by Walter Willett:
amazon.com/dp/B004INHD00/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_QKM0D9TM49T7ZD0BKJ3H
Scientific Report of the 2015 Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee (NHANES data):
health.gov/sites/default/files/2019-09/Scientific-Report-of-the-2015-Dietary-Guidelines-Advisory-Committee.pdf
World Health Organization (WHO) International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) IARC Monographs evaluate consumption of red meat and processed meat:
https://www.iarc.who.int/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/pr240_E.pdf
Red Pen reviews:
redpenreviews.org
Seth Yoder's review of Nina Teicholz's book, The Big Fat Surprise:
thedietwars.com/the-big-fat-surprise-a-critical-review-part-1-by-seth-yoder
Seth Yoder's review of Gary Taubes' book The Case for Keto:
thescienceofnutrition.substack.com/p/the-case-for-keto-a-critical-review
Harvard University Symposium on Red Meat, Meat Alternatives, and Beyond:
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutrition/jan-27-symposium/
Animal Protein Intake Is Inversely Associated With Mortality in Older Adults: The InCHIANTI Study
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34849845
Association of Animal and Plant Protein Intake With All-Cause and Cause-Specific Mortality in a Japanese Cohort
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31682257
High-Protein Plant-Based Diet Versus a Protein-Matched Omnivorous Diet to Support Resistance Training Adaptations: A Comparison Between Habitual Vegans and Omnivores by Hamilton Roschel
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941
The Anabolic Response to Plant‑Based Protein Ingestion by Luc van Loon:
link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s40279-021-01540-8.pdf
Low Protein Intake Is Associated with a Major Reduction in IGF-1, Cancer, and Overall Mortality
in the 65 and Younger but Not Older Population by Valter Longo:
cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1550-4131%2814%2900062-X
Supplement-based nutritional strategies to tackle frailty: A
multifactorial, double-blind, randomized placebo-controlled trial by Hamilton Roschel
sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0261561421003204
Issues with Annals of Internal Medicine red meat systematic reviews and guidelines by Walter Willett: youtu.be/cs4vCv8U9CM
Conférence VINEIS Paolo: The Exposome Approach to the Study of Environmental Cancer
Imperial College London, London, UK
youtu.be/vhwUGMO17PU
Anabolic Resistance of Ageing | Prof Luc van Loon
youtu.be/M9fFqquGy4k?t=1568
Episode 96: Professor Don Layman - The Importance Of High Quality Protein Plant vs Animal
youtu.be/PlIE_v3w7UI
Meat industry: No specific link between meat and cancer interview with Shalene McNeill
cnn.com/videos/health/2015/10/26/meat-industry-disagrees-with-meat-study-shalene-mcneill-intv-qmb.cnn
Building the Beef Industry - A Century of Commitment 1898 - 1998
amazon.com/dp/1879894157/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_VBEX626ES1S6R8259R2G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Marketing Beef in Japan
amazon.com/dp/1560220449/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_FV8ST6YRQCYFXR1D7TDW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Harvard Health: The hidden dangers of protein powders
https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-hidden-dangers-of-protein-powders
Cleveland Clinic: Why Extra Protein for Your Child Is Unnecessary – and Possibly Dangerous
health.clevelandclinic.org/why-extra-protein-for-your-child-is-unnecessary-and-possibly-dangerous
0:00 Intro
2:22 WIL Protein is not protein
4:35 WHO: meat is carcinogenic
5:13 Cattlemen's shenanigans
9:12 Scientists on both sides
12:08 Protein is a packaged deal
14:16 Protein and strength
15:00 Hamilton Roschel interview
21:37 How much protein do we need?
22:04 Protein and aging
23:31 Muscle loss and bedrest
24:50 Simple conclusion
Who lives longer and gets stronger? People who get protein from meat or plants?
References:
Protein is not protein. Here's why: youtu.be/hJNF2_dCWkg
Eat, Drink, and Be Healthy: The Harvard Medical School Guide to Healthy Eating by Walter Willett:
amazon.com/dp/B004INHD00/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_QKM0D9TM49T7ZD0BKJ3H
Scientific Report of the 2015 Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee (NHANES data):
health.gov/sites/default/files/2019-09/Scientific-Report-of-the-2015-Dietary-Guidelines-Advisory-Committee.pdf
World Health Organization (WHO) International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) IARC Monographs evaluate consumption of red meat and processed meat:
https://www.iarc.who.int/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/pr240_E.pdf
Red Pen reviews:
redpenreviews.org
Seth Yoder's review of Nina Teicholz's book, The Big Fat Surprise:
thedietwars.com/the-big-fat-surprise-a-critical-review-part-1-by-seth-yoder
Seth Yoder's review of Gary Taubes' book The Case for Keto:
thescienceofnutrition.substack.com/p/the-case-for-keto-a-critical-review
Harvard University Symposium on Red Meat, Meat Alternatives, and Beyond:
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutrition/jan-27-symposium/
Animal Protein Intake Is Inversely Associated With Mortality in Older Adults: The InCHIANTI Study
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34849845
Association of Animal and Plant Protein Intake With All-Cause and Cause-Specific Mortality in a Japanese Cohort
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31682257
High-Protein Plant-Based Diet Versus a Protein-Matched Omnivorous Diet to Support Resistance Training Adaptations: A Comparison Between Habitual Vegans and Omnivores by Hamilton Roschel
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941
The Anabolic Response to Plant‑Based Protein Ingestion by Luc van Loon:
link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s40279-021-01540-8.pdf
Low Protein Intake Is Associated with a Major Reduction in IGF-1, Cancer, and Overall Mortality
in the 65 and Younger but Not Older Population by Valter Longo:
cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1550-4131%2814%2900062-X
Supplement-based nutritional strategies to tackle frailty: A
multifactorial, double-blind, randomized placebo-controlled trial by Hamilton Roschel
sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0261561421003204
Issues with Annals of Internal Medicine red meat systematic reviews and guidelines by Walter Willett: youtu.be/cs4vCv8U9CM
Conférence VINEIS Paolo: The Exposome Approach to the Study of Environmental Cancer
Imperial College London, London, UK
youtu.be/vhwUGMO17PU
Anabolic Resistance of Ageing | Prof Luc van Loon
youtu.be/M9fFqquGy4k?t=1568
Episode 96: Professor Don Layman - The Importance Of High Quality Protein Plant vs Animal
youtu.be/PlIE_v3w7UI
Meat industry: No specific link between meat and cancer interview with Shalene McNeill
cnn.com/videos/health/2015/10/26/meat-industry-disagrees-with-meat-study-shalene-mcneill-intv-qmb.cnn
Building the Beef Industry - A Century of Commitment 1898 - 1998
amazon.com/dp/1879894157/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_VBEX626ES1S6R8259R2G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Marketing Beef in Japan
amazon.com/dp/1560220449/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_FV8ST6YRQCYFXR1D7TDW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Harvard Health: The hidden dangers of protein powders
https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-hidden-dangers-of-protein-powders
Cleveland Clinic: Why Extra Protein for Your Child Is Unnecessary – and Possibly Dangerous
health.clevelandclinic.org/why-extra-protein-for-your-child-is-unnecessary-and-possibly-dangerous
0:00 Intro
2:22 WIL Protein is not protein
4:35 WHO: meat is carcinogenic
5:13 Cattlemen's shenanigans
9:12 Scientists on both sides
12:08 Protein is a packaged deal
14:16 Protein and strength
15:00 Hamilton Roschel interview
21:37 How much protein do we need?
22:04 Protein and aging
23:31 Muscle loss and bedrest
24:50 Simple conclusion










