Grassdigger | Pikmin 2: Resuming Your Expedition in 0 Minutes (in Theory) @grassdigger8695 | Uploaded August 2018 | Updated October 2024, 2 hours ago.
Pikmin 2 records how many minutes you have spent in a file. However, it only counts how many whole minutes you have spent. If I select a file, play for 1:59 and save + reset, the game only counts this as 1 minute. Because of this, it is possible to pay off the debt in just 1 minute: youtube.com/watch?v=CbvG03nNJ2s
It is possible to beat the game in just 20 minutes. HSS0136 beat the game in 23 minutes here: youtube.com/watch?v=KCxmtdn_PhQ
HSS0136 saved 2 more minutes since then. Here are the minute saves:
White Flower Garden 3: youtube.com/watch?v=fpVKMgk7RwM
Valley of Repose: youtube.com/watch?v=6-tMPXP69JY
I also recently saved a minute. Submerged Castle 2 used to take 2 minutes, but now it only takes 1 minute:
youtube.com/watch?v=nMSybTmlERo
One of the current places we have to spend a minute is when we decide to "Resume Your Expedition" after paying off the debt. This is because there are a lot of cutscenes, and there isn't a place we can force the game to save quick enough after the cutscenes. However, in this video, I show a theoretical way we can save in under a minute after selecting a file that just paid off the debt.
I recommend watching this video: youtube.com/watch?v=yZmwfjCdLW8
In that video, I explored what would happen if we spent 5000 years going to sunset so that we could overflow the day counter and land places on day 1. One of the things I showed was the existence of a cave in the landing site of Perplexing Pool that we call caveinfo. It can spawn there on day 1 or 2. Since it's so close to the landing site, I figured it could help us have a quick way to save the game after returning to the planet. By the way, here's a video of mine where I explored caveinfo more: youtube.com/watch?v=wiePAx-OJ20
caveinfo spawns in Perplexing Pool on day 1 or 2. Thus, if I want to enter this cave after paying off the debt, I need to pay off the debt on day 0 or day 1. Paying off the debt on day 1 would be tricky, since the current route gets Pink Menace as the last treasure before reaching 10k pokos (paying off the debt always takes 4 minutes, and Pink Menace takes 1 minute on its own, but together, they take 4 minutes). Thus, we'd have to get the whites necessary for collecting Pink Menace quickly on day 1, since we can't get the whites from the ship. I didn't want to bother showing that this was possible without adding any minutes, so I decided to pay off the debt on day 0, which is certainly possible without adding any minutes.
Now, I show that resuming your expedition on day 1 can be done in 0 minutes! It's not too exciting, I just pluck a red Pikmin with the Pluckaphone and immediately enter caveinfo. The red sprout can be placed in the ground by simply getting a red extinction prior to paying off the debt. Also, I show that we can get to day 2 without losing any minutes. Since I can't end the day by going to sunset, I thought it was necessary to show this. To make the day end, I simply let both leaders lose their health while inside caveinfo. Notice that at the end of the video, I show that I've spent 59 minutes playing this file before and after day 1.
Note that this strategy does not save a minute on its own. This is because currently, Spiny Alien Treat is combined with resuming your expedition, as together, they both take 1 minute. However, Spiny Alien Treat takes 1 minute on its own. Thus, no minutes have been saved from a full run yet. We have to find a way to collect Spiny Alien Treat without losing any more minutes.
I don't think Spiny Alien Treat can be collected on its own in under a minute. However, there's hope that it can be collected with Temporal Mechanism in under 2 minutes. Currently, Temporal Mechanism is barely collected in under 2 minutes, but if charging is implemented, there may be enough time to also collect Spiny Alien Treat without adding a minute.
If this does save a minute, then obviously, this doesn't change the number of minutes that a human needs to beat Pikmin 2, since paying off the debt on day 0 takes 5000 years of going to sunset (it takes even more time when doing a low in-game timer run, since you have to reset every time you save after going to sunset). Still, it's fun to think about how low the in-game timer can go in theory!
Pikmin 2 records how many minutes you have spent in a file. However, it only counts how many whole minutes you have spent. If I select a file, play for 1:59 and save + reset, the game only counts this as 1 minute. Because of this, it is possible to pay off the debt in just 1 minute: youtube.com/watch?v=CbvG03nNJ2s
It is possible to beat the game in just 20 minutes. HSS0136 beat the game in 23 minutes here: youtube.com/watch?v=KCxmtdn_PhQ
HSS0136 saved 2 more minutes since then. Here are the minute saves:
White Flower Garden 3: youtube.com/watch?v=fpVKMgk7RwM
Valley of Repose: youtube.com/watch?v=6-tMPXP69JY
I also recently saved a minute. Submerged Castle 2 used to take 2 minutes, but now it only takes 1 minute:
youtube.com/watch?v=nMSybTmlERo
One of the current places we have to spend a minute is when we decide to "Resume Your Expedition" after paying off the debt. This is because there are a lot of cutscenes, and there isn't a place we can force the game to save quick enough after the cutscenes. However, in this video, I show a theoretical way we can save in under a minute after selecting a file that just paid off the debt.
I recommend watching this video: youtube.com/watch?v=yZmwfjCdLW8
In that video, I explored what would happen if we spent 5000 years going to sunset so that we could overflow the day counter and land places on day 1. One of the things I showed was the existence of a cave in the landing site of Perplexing Pool that we call caveinfo. It can spawn there on day 1 or 2. Since it's so close to the landing site, I figured it could help us have a quick way to save the game after returning to the planet. By the way, here's a video of mine where I explored caveinfo more: youtube.com/watch?v=wiePAx-OJ20
caveinfo spawns in Perplexing Pool on day 1 or 2. Thus, if I want to enter this cave after paying off the debt, I need to pay off the debt on day 0 or day 1. Paying off the debt on day 1 would be tricky, since the current route gets Pink Menace as the last treasure before reaching 10k pokos (paying off the debt always takes 4 minutes, and Pink Menace takes 1 minute on its own, but together, they take 4 minutes). Thus, we'd have to get the whites necessary for collecting Pink Menace quickly on day 1, since we can't get the whites from the ship. I didn't want to bother showing that this was possible without adding any minutes, so I decided to pay off the debt on day 0, which is certainly possible without adding any minutes.
Now, I show that resuming your expedition on day 1 can be done in 0 minutes! It's not too exciting, I just pluck a red Pikmin with the Pluckaphone and immediately enter caveinfo. The red sprout can be placed in the ground by simply getting a red extinction prior to paying off the debt. Also, I show that we can get to day 2 without losing any minutes. Since I can't end the day by going to sunset, I thought it was necessary to show this. To make the day end, I simply let both leaders lose their health while inside caveinfo. Notice that at the end of the video, I show that I've spent 59 minutes playing this file before and after day 1.
Note that this strategy does not save a minute on its own. This is because currently, Spiny Alien Treat is combined with resuming your expedition, as together, they both take 1 minute. However, Spiny Alien Treat takes 1 minute on its own. Thus, no minutes have been saved from a full run yet. We have to find a way to collect Spiny Alien Treat without losing any more minutes.
I don't think Spiny Alien Treat can be collected on its own in under a minute. However, there's hope that it can be collected with Temporal Mechanism in under 2 minutes. Currently, Temporal Mechanism is barely collected in under 2 minutes, but if charging is implemented, there may be enough time to also collect Spiny Alien Treat without adding a minute.
If this does save a minute, then obviously, this doesn't change the number of minutes that a human needs to beat Pikmin 2, since paying off the debt on day 0 takes 5000 years of going to sunset (it takes even more time when doing a low in-game timer run, since you have to reset every time you save after going to sunset). Still, it's fun to think about how low the in-game timer can go in theory!
