zallard1 | Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! - Mike Tyson [2:07] - PB since stroke @zallard1 | Uploaded December 2023 | Updated October 2024, 3 hours ago.
Today's my birthday! The last couple of days, I've tried to see if I am still capable of completing a perfectly executed Mike Tyson fight on my Twitch stream.
For context, at the start of May, I suffered a stroke. I got to the hospital quickly and my recovery has been good so far, but if you want to catch up on how I've been doing (and what exactly happened), this thread has everything, including the incident itself described in the pastebin, my gradual recovery, and any struggles I've had along the way:
twitter.com/zallard1/status/1653471339100119041
Despite my good outlook, this has still affected me and my every day life. I also have been hesitant to fully committing to speedrunning again, because I know my gameplay has been affected by this incident too. I've fought Tyson in very brief bursts here and there, and my consistency on him has been undeniably worsened.
Through my efforts, I think I've been able to get back to the same level of consistency with the uppercut frame perfect punches on Tyson in phases 1 and 2, but my phase 3 frame perfect punches are still considerably less consistent now.
Ever since the stroke, I had been completely unable to finish a perfect fight because of this consistency dip. It's a massive barrier keeping me from speedrunning the entire game again, because this fight matters more than any other fight in the speedrun, so if I can't match or do better than my 2:15 in my full game PB, I have no chance being competitive with it again.
Tonight, I finally was able to pull it together enough in phase 3 to prove to myself that I still have what it takes, despite all odds. Here's the Twitch VOD just for completeness: twitch.tv/videos/2005431274
It's going to be a long and hard road to get back to where I was, but I see hope if I've been able to get this far. Thanks for watching!
Today's my birthday! The last couple of days, I've tried to see if I am still capable of completing a perfectly executed Mike Tyson fight on my Twitch stream.
For context, at the start of May, I suffered a stroke. I got to the hospital quickly and my recovery has been good so far, but if you want to catch up on how I've been doing (and what exactly happened), this thread has everything, including the incident itself described in the pastebin, my gradual recovery, and any struggles I've had along the way:
twitter.com/zallard1/status/1653471339100119041
Despite my good outlook, this has still affected me and my every day life. I also have been hesitant to fully committing to speedrunning again, because I know my gameplay has been affected by this incident too. I've fought Tyson in very brief bursts here and there, and my consistency on him has been undeniably worsened.
Through my efforts, I think I've been able to get back to the same level of consistency with the uppercut frame perfect punches on Tyson in phases 1 and 2, but my phase 3 frame perfect punches are still considerably less consistent now.
Ever since the stroke, I had been completely unable to finish a perfect fight because of this consistency dip. It's a massive barrier keeping me from speedrunning the entire game again, because this fight matters more than any other fight in the speedrun, so if I can't match or do better than my 2:15 in my full game PB, I have no chance being competitive with it again.
Tonight, I finally was able to pull it together enough in phase 3 to prove to myself that I still have what it takes, despite all odds. Here's the Twitch VOD just for completeness: twitch.tv/videos/2005431274
It's going to be a long and hard road to get back to where I was, but I see hope if I've been able to get this far. Thanks for watching!
![Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Mike Tyson [2:07] - PB since stroke](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qOf-RrC9UPM/hqdefault.jpg "Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Mike Tyson [2:07] - PB since stroke
Todays my birthday! The last couple of days, Ive tried to see if I am still capable of completing a perfectly executed Mike Tyson fight on my Twitch stream.
For context, at the start of May, I suffered a stroke. I got to the hospital quickly and my recovery has been good so far, but if you want to catch up on how Ive been doing (and what exactly happened), this thread has everything, including the incident itself described in the pastebin, my gradual recovery, and any struggles Ive had along the way:
https://twitter.com/zallard1/status/1653471339100119041
Despite my good outlook, this has still affected me and my every day life. I also have been hesitant to fully committing to speedrunning again, because I know my gameplay has been affected by this incident too. Ive fought Tyson in very brief bursts here and there, and my consistency on him has been undeniably worsened.
Through my efforts, I think Ive been able to get back to the same level of consistency with the uppercut frame perfect punches on Tyson in phases 1 and 2, but my phase 3 frame perfect punches are still considerably less consistent now.
Ever since the stroke, I had been completely unable to finish a perfect fight because of this consistency dip. Its a massive barrier keeping me from speedrunning the entire game again, because this fight matters more than any other fight in the speedrun, so if I cant match or do better than my 2:15 in my full game PB, I have no chance being competitive with it again.
Tonight, I finally was able to pull it together enough in phase 3 to prove to myself that I still have what it takes, despite all odds. Heres the Twitch VOD just for completeness: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2005431274
Its going to be a long and hard road to get back to where I was, but I see hope if Ive been able to get this far. Thanks for watching!")
![Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Piston Honda 2 [0:39.97] (NTSC WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rN7ScxzU01Q/hqdefault.jpg "Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Piston Honda 2 [0:39.97] (NTSC WR)
This run was done on an original cartridge of Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! on an NES that was modded with the Tim Worthington NESRGB kit. For some more in depth information about my RGB setup, you can check out this pastebin here: https://pastebin.com/m7tzR5Cq
Ive also decided to include a non-stretched version of this fight in an unlisted video. If youd like to learn more about why Im including this too, you can check out the description in the second video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONGOXtSkuHQ
So I havent uploaded anything in a while since Ive been going through various difficult IRL things. I wont get into them, but theyve been making it pretty brutal on me, so I havent been able or willing to commit time to speedrunning stuff. I did a charity drive recently for Starlight, and had a bid war between which Punchout game I should derust: MTPO or SPO. MTPO won handily, so Ive been gradually derusting the game while making sure my direct captures are ready for if I land any PBs.
I ended up landing this during a time where I was testing my recording quality with my Datapath card settings, which was extremely unexpected considering how hard I was struggling with this IL a couple years back trying to get sub 40. You can check out my offline attempt session here to check out how brief this was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbkeQcF6a_o
This fight is extremely complicated and brutally difficult. Just like the 39.99 I uploaded a while back, this fight executes the TAS strategy for the fight, which has a couple of specific quirks to it.
For the entirety of the first phase of the fight, you CANNOT lose more than 1 frame across the ENTIRE knockdown. If you lose 2 or more frames collectively throughout the first knockdown, then Honda will block your face jab at the start of phase 2.
This fight heavily uses two techniques, one of which is called a dizzy destroyer, which is a 2 punch combo that involves exploiting Honda 2 & Machos guard in a very specific way. Honda 2 follows your gloves when you tap up, which leaves him open for a gut punch, then you are capable of holding up and punch for an immediate jab after, which will successfully land only on the condition that you let go of up while Macs punch animation is going off, but before the punch actually connects.
The second technique is called a max damage uppercut. This is where you throw a star punch and tap up in a special way in the Honda 2 & Macho fights where the opponent is busy trying to follow your guard, but cannot block their face in time before the uppercut lands, which results in dealing more damage than usual, as well as preventing them from dodging the uppercut outright.
For Honda 2 in particular, there is an addendum to this, because Honda 2s max damage uppercut has a sizable window where you can throw the star punch, but there is a single frame window thats several frames before that sizable window where you can still have the max damage uppercut work. I need to go for specifically these frame perfect max damage uppercuts.
Phew, lets finally talk about the fight itself. The fight opens with 2 dizzy destroyer combos, which is the fastest way to land 4 successful hits, which always results in your first guaranteed star. Immediately throw a frame perfect max damage uppercut, followed by another dizzy destroyer to get 2 more stars (1st one is 100% likely, the 2nd is 50%), then hold up while Honda 2 is recovering from the previous star punch, and as soon as you see Hondas sprite fully centered while he starts to do his eyebrow pattern, throw a star and IMMEDIATELY let go of up. If youre reasonably fast, this star should deal max damage as he attempts to throw a punch, and you should be able to knock him down at 23 seconds with a buffered jab.
The start of phase 2 is just holding up + punch, then letting go of up as soon as Macs punch animation starts. If and only if you are on TAS pace, this punch will land and you will get a guaranteed star. From here, throw a frame perfect max damage uppercut, then follow it up with another dizzy destroyer combo, then throwing another frame perfect max damage star for a knockdown at 36 seconds. For this to work, you NEED the good health refill (50% likely) and the lucky star on the final face jab (also 50% likely). This puts the total odds of this fight to 1/8.
Phase 3 consists of landing the final star punch for an instant knockdown since Honda got up on a 1 count. When throwing the star, you need to do the max damage input, and you can tell if its perfect if Honda lowers his guard near the very end of the star punch.
Compared to McHazards TAS, I only lost 1 frame on the first dizzy destroyer in phase 1; everything else in the entire fight was performed frame perfectly. The record was a 3 way tie between Summoningsalt, Jlet, and Jefeman, so its nice to finally add my name to that list and not have to think about this strategy ever again.
Thanks for watching!")
![Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Glass Joe [0:42.00] (NTSC WR w/ a ★)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sF2NnZj2xjU/hqdefault.jpg "Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Glass Joe [0:42.00] (NTSC WR w/ a ★)
So, Ive finally gotten an RGB setup up and running for streaming/recording stuff now! I recorded this on a real NES that has an NESRGB kit installed in it, and upscaled this fight to 4K. For more information about my recording setup, as well as other details surrounding my setup and troubleshooting to get my recording to look so incredible, heres a huge pastebin that chronicles a bunch of the subtleties of RGB capture that Ive been wrestling with over the past few months: https://pastebin.com/4vZM3wA7
Additionally, Ive decided to include a non-stretched version of this fight in an unlisted video. If youd like to learn more about why Im including this too, you can check out the description in the second video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Nb-NYMKMA
Similar to when I started redoing Wii Punch-Out records in widescreen HD, now Im wanting to start to do the same for my NES/SNES runs of MTPO/SPO. I was going to start with SPO, but I ran into a really quirky hurdle that I didnt anticipate, so instead I decided to restart MTPO videos first. For MTPO, I have decided to leave a decent bit of the overscan areas in, because with how sharp this quality is, its one of the only ways to prove that this was captured off of a real NES, as emulators do not have overscan areas that function the same way that the NES does, especially for the very top of the screen.
I decided to start this retreading with none other than the easiest world record you could possibly get in the Punch-Out series, MTPOs Glass Joe. This fight has numerous strategies, including one thats completely buffered from start to finish that just instantly gets you the 42.00. I opted to go for a challenging one that gets you a star, but to justify the existence of this upload a bit more, I also looked around and see if I could match the TAS in terms of real time, as well as in-game time. I looked at McHazards TAS and realized that I had a couple of options, as well as some wiggle room for strategizing, since he gets to Glass Joe backing up with a couple of frames to spare.
I start this fight with 1 buffered jab, then I actually delay my second jab just ever so slightly so that I waste only a couple of frames. The TAS at this point would instantly go into punching Glass Joe in the gut with Macs left hand repeatedly, which is humanly possible, but is very easy to lose frames on for human execution. Plus, the first gut punch that McHazard does is specific, in that he delays very very slightly, then presses up as Macs punch is being thrown so that Joes guard is manipulated up. This can also be done as a human too, but is slightly awkward.
However, Ive found that similar to the Von Kaiser WR strategy, at the net cost of 1 frame, you can buffer a right gut punch and then lift Joes guard up while Macs fist is still going off, which is way more reasonable of an approach, and with the cost being only a single frame, its totally worth it.
After that first gut punch, you can start buffering nonstop gut punches in the sequence left/right/right, but only if you continuously tap up for that last right gut punch in each of these repeated sequences to prevent Joe from ever blocking your punches. Doing this sequence 5 times, then ending with 2 left gut punches will leave you with a star as Joe backs up for his signature move at 40 seconds. I get to this point slightly behind the TAS, but because Joe backs up at the same in-game time every time, I instantly catch up to the TAS once Joe backs up, since the only thing that matters is that Joe is idle as the clock ticks from 39 to 40.
Glass Joe will shake his fist while doing either 2 beeps or 4 beeps here. If he does 4 beeps, I reset, but if he does 2 beeps, then I time my star punch precisely at the end of the second beep noise. This punch has a 4 frame window that will guarantee you a KO at either 42.25 or 42.00, with 2 of frames allocated to each of those increments. You can hit Joe with any type of punch for this to work, but the star punch is the most swag option, so I have to go for it, haha.
For this fight, I made sure that my star landed on the first possible frame of the 42.00 increment, which it most definitely does. Since this fight is so easy otherwise, I decided to only accept a fight where Joe never attempted a fake getup on Marios 5 or 9 counts, which added an extra luck requirement, but also ensures that my real time exactly matches the TAS from the first frame the fight starts, all the way until Mario says KO at the end.
Id like to eventually improve/match all my personal best times in this game so that they all can be in amazing quality like this one, but it will take a really long time and a ton of effort to do so. Right now Im working on trying to improve my best Tyson time. Im streaming attempts sometimes on my Twitch channel, so give it a look if youre interested in following my progress: http://www.twitch.tv/zallard1/
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Don Flamenco 2 [1:23.25]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sQeqW-9iNng/hqdefault.jpg "Mike Tysons Punch-Out!! - Don Flamenco 2 [1:23.25]
Doing single segment attempts of this game again and somehow landed a small improvement over my old pb with a safer strategy, without even pressing select!
Here is the footage from power-on to the successful fight for SRCs leaderboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6L1H9q3x0w")
![Super Punch Out!! - Masked Muscle [00630] (NTSC WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/spDuMYzQo9A/hqdefault.jpg "Super Punch Out!! - Masked Muscle [00630] (NTSC WR)
This run was done on an original Super Nintendo cartridge of Super Punch-Out, as well as an original Super Nintendo 1chip console that was recapped and modded with the Voultar RGB amp to restore the correct color intensity. For some more in depth information about my general RGB setup, you can check out this pastebin here: https://pastebin.com/TtXx1PQx
Additionally, Ive decided to include a non-stretched version of this fight in an unlisted video. If youd like to learn more about why Im including this too, you can check out the description in the second video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkSchmu_51E
When I went to re-match the TAS time for this fight, I had actually gotten it in like 6 minutes of attempts, but forgot to press record and totally had to do it *again* which was rough lol. I ended up spending like 2 extra hours matching the time again because the luck was unusually rough on me despite it typically not being that bad on paper, plus the new adjustment that was found in this fight that Ill get into later.
Masked Muscle is a fairly innocuous fight in the full game speedrun. He doesnt dish out luck that can outright kill your entire lead due to a couple of backup strategies, but despite this, he has a fair bit of randomness that can make getting the perfect fight on him mildly annoying.
The fight starts off with the usual guard manipulation that youve been seeing in other fights where you hold up for the first frame of the fight, then let go and hold punch for the second frame, however this fight introduces something new into the mix: random blocking from the opponent.
With this strategy, Muscle can block the first two punches, and the final punch in phase 1. These are the only luck events in the fight, and the first blockable punch has a 3/4 chance of going through, while the second and third blockable punches have a (3/4)^2 chance of going through since theyre buffered punches. This means the odds of the strategy are:
(3/4) * (9/16) * (9/16) = 243 / 1024, or about 1 in 4.214 (~23.7%)
Once you’ve landed your first left gut punch of the fight, then immediately buffer a second one and pray he doesn’t block either of those. Thankfully, the next 2 left jabs you’re about to buffer here will land 100% of the time, since Muscle is attempting to throw hooks here, and while he commits to throwing an attack, he cannot randomly block.
After the 2nd jab, you need to do a slight delay and counter an uppercut that Muscle is about to throw on your right side, to which, you counter with a right gut punch. From here, you need to hit a frame perfect delayed punch such that when the punch lands, you get 2 extra arrows, as well as speed up Muscles recoil animation.
You have two paths to get this difficult punch done. Back when I initially matched the TAS on this fight, I just timed the punch manually, similar to how I did it on the Bald Bull IL from this game, however, the community has been booming lately, and its been discovered that there actually exists a perfect buffer for this punch! The only caveat to this buffer is its pretty tricky, but definitely something that you can master.
It involves doing 2 quick ducks which are actually pretty tricky, because you have to tap Down and Up extremely quickly one after the other. This was the main reason I didnt consider this as a possibility for a buffer back in the day, because it seemed too awkward.
Hootey had actually found that if you do not have your super meter completely filled up, that holding the A button will actually automatically cancel your dodges for you, which effectively eliminates the Up portions of the quick duck inputs, meaning now your only obstacle is to quickly press the Down inputs at the correct rhythm. Its still fairly tricky to get it down just right because of how fast the ducks come out now.
If you hold Down too long, then you end up getting a quick duck that isnt actually the fastest, which makes the punch get blocked. If you over compensate for that by going too fast, then youll only have one duck actually come out.
Once you get the double quick duck, then buffer two more left gut punches to hopefully get Muscle dizzy (he can block the final punch if he wants), and just hold Down until you start to see your character start to dodge, then immediately let go of Down and throw a low super as your character centers himself for an instant knockdown!
For phase 2, you need to throw a low super exactly *1* frame after the fight starts, otherwise hell dodge your punch outright. If you waste an in-game frame on the dizzy knockdown, you can actually buffer a low super, but it would involve abandoning the tap duck buffer, which might not be a great idea for some runners. Its worth mentioning though, especially if anyone happens to find phase 2 unusually difficult to be consistent on. Either way, once that low super lands in phase 2, Muscle will be down for good!
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Punch Out!! (Wii) - Title Defense Mr. Sandman [0:34.64]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/spMeNqEKjdk/hqdefault.jpg "Punch Out!! (Wii) - Title Defense Mr. Sandman [0:34.64]
UPDATE: Ive improved this to 34.46! Check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvJj5LpiL0
Ok so I lied a little bit, because NOW Im taking a detour from Wii Punch Out ILs to do Tyson IL attempts. I just felt that since I was in practice for the various complex inputs for the Title Defense Sandman fight, that I should at least try out this bizarre headgear strategy that Frame by Frame Animation (Mysteryman) found a while back.
As far as the Tyson thing, Ive promised sinister1 that I would grind Mike Tyson for the fabled phase 3 uppercut, which Ive never attempted before. This was off of an ill timed bet/promise I made, but is kind of funny how it unfolded. Check out sinisters perfectly executed Tyson PB here, along with the lore that goes along with this silly promise: https://youtu.be/fVeE7SdCjiA
Ill be streaming attempts at this pretty soon! If youd like to watch those attempts, follow me here at http://www.twitch.tv/zallard1/
Anyways, this strategy uses the 100 loss headgear in Career Mode to reduce the amount of hearts and damage taken when Sandman throws his My Turn hooks, which slows the timer down substantially. The TAS time for this strategy is a 34.28 for reference, and has about 26 inputs that you need to time frame perfectly to get that time.
Despite the assistance from the headgear, this strategy is far FAR FAR MORE DIFFICULT than the previous 38.73 strategy that I just uploaded. I struggled to complete even a single attempt because of phase 2s dreamland pattern not being correct, so the fact that this is the first time this strategy has ever been fully completed by a human, and its *this* close to the TAS despite the unbelievable difficulty of this strategy, just absolutely blows me away.
Most of this fight is like the 38.73, where you punch Sandman to the side and throw a delayed jab to provoke a My turn hook. The side that you throw your jab will determine if he does the correct type of hook, because My turn hooks are the only ones we want, and the jab pattern typically goes in a right right left sequence. For the first 2 wink attacks, you want to punch him in the gut and do a delayed jab for each of them, 1st one being a left jab & the 2nd one being a right, and let them hit you.
Then, youll need to throw a punch immediately after in order to make Sandman start his next 2 overhead attacks sooner. You can unlock Macs animation from being hit by mashing up and a punch, and as long as you are doing it during the last part of the hit animation, it should work if you mash fast enough. For Sandmans next 2 overheads, punch him in the gut and do a delayed jab for each one, first one being left and the second one being right, similar to the first 2 attacks. Then, similar to the punch to provoke Sandman, you need to unlock Macs punch to throw faster, but THIS this punch needs to come out ASAP, otherwise it wont be fast enough to cancel his Night night jab.
Next, interrupt Sandmans Stand still punch with, you guessed it, yet another gut punch into a delayed left jab. Next, youll need to counter Sandmans quick hook from the side, then youll need to throw a right hook to provoke a My turn hook right as his Dreamland Express phase begins. You need to duck his hook, throw a gut punch, then wait as Sandman centers himself and THEN throw the star as hes fully centered. If done correctly, he will attempt to throw an uppercut, only to be instantly knocked down by your star. I got him down at a 2:45, which Ive only gotten about 10 times before.
For phase 2, Sandman will do 2 winks, then delay and do a 3rd wink. For winks 1 and 2, you want to yet again throw hooks into delayed jabs for both, except this time you want both jabs to be on the right side. His winks are on a random side in phase 2, but will always alternate, so if you take note of what side his 1st or 2nd winks were on, you can be prepared to counter his 3rd wink on the correct side. Once you counter wink 3, buffer a hook, then wait for a couple of frames before throwing a right hook to provoke his final My turn hook. Here is the critical moment of the fight, because this is what stopped literally 100% of my attempts before this one...
You need to do a mandatory frame perfect dodge/duck in order for Sandman to do the correct Dreamland Express delay. If you are even a single frame late on this duck, then he will do this instead: https://youtu.be/G6lHIBV0VAY?t=46
So... once you finally hit the frame perfect duck in phase 2 and lock him into the correct pattern, then throw your star right around when Sandman fully centers himself, then hell attempt to throw an uppercut, but your star punch will instantly knock him down first.
For phase 3 itself, just counter the 2 winks and buffer the 2 star punch for the TKO! This strat was wild to pull off, haha. Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Splatterhouse (Arcade) - *Former* High Score World Record [811,400 points] (TG/Aurcade ruleset)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t8PPDkUaWsQ/hqdefault.jpg "Splatterhouse (Arcade) - *Former* High Score World Record [811,400 points] (TG/Aurcade ruleset)
UPDATE: The record has recently been improved to 827,400 by John Liming over at Galloping Ghost arcade! You can check out his run here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voI03Mt0l58
This was played on an original Splatterhouse arcade PCB on the H.A.S. supergun. This run was also done on default difficulty settings shown at the end of the video, and was recorded through an S-Video connection because my setup cannot support RGB signals at the moment. Here is a picture of my boardset w/ its original romset & supergun setup: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dy6ucfvUwAA4AZC.jpg
Its worth noting that this run follows the Twin Galaxies & Aurcade ruleset for score in this game, which bans the use of the double KO tactic on the final boss, which is otherwise the most lucrative option to cash out your extra lives. If this were allowed, then you would have to set up guaranteed double KOs with the blue orb timer, which is something on the order of 14+ minutes per double KO. You could also die to rocks at the end, but if youre on a good pace, the guaranteed route is the best option for consistency. Without the restrictions in this category, scores in the 1.2 - 1.3 million point range are possible.
I also need to make a note that showing your physical DIP switch settings for this game is worthless. Switch 1 enables the settings menu, while switches 2-8 do absolutely nothing, so the only thing that showing the physical dip switches does is tell you whether or not the game is in test mode... which should be already obvious if thats the case or not by looking at the screen. Once the run was over, I flipped DIP switch #1 to show off the actual settings the board was set to during that run.
Here are links to a Twitch highlight where I got this run live in front of about 50+ viewers, as well as a highlight of that entire stream of attempts just for posterity.
Twitch highlight of the run itself: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/398283573
Twitch highlight of the entire stream - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/398281489
Ok, now that we got all the fine details out of the way, lets talk about the run itself. This run was incredible, with only a couple of bad mistakes in a few of the stage 6 loops. On average, my stage 6 loop scores were incredibly strong, most of which were well beyond 50k each. I actually was doing so well, that on the final loop of stage 6, I actually started doing the speedrun strategies to defeat the boss faster, just because I absolutely did not want to take even the slightest risk if it meant threatening this incredible pace. I wish more of my stage 6 loops got to see the blue orb, but having 4 out of 10 see the orb isnt too shabby at all.
Something I should probably elaborate on; the blue orb is a counter-measure so that players do not stay in one spot for an infinite amount of time. This is so theres something to kick idle players off of the game so any new players who walk up to the cabinet dont get any free games, as well as just make sure that players cant stall in one spot to prevent others from playing. This orb is great for score, since it puts a finite limit on how long you can point press any given spot.
With this run breaking the 800k barrier, I think Im pretty content with this run for the foreseeable future. This is still very beatable, but would require a lot more effort than Im willing to throw at it right now. I might return to this one day if Im feeling up to it again, but I think this is a great score for me to stop on for now!
I gotta give huge shoutouts to both Anthony Paparo and Caitlin Oliver for driving up this score over the years! Their efforts to optimize this score ultimately inspired me to do attempts of this once I finally got access to arcade hardware.")
![Super Punch Out!! - Super Machoman [00943] (NTSC WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tb-dTAbaBSc/hqdefault.jpg "Super Punch Out!! - Super Machoman [00943] (NTSC WR)
This run was done on an original Super Nintendo cartridge of Super Punch-Out, as well as an original Super Nintendo 1chip console that was recapped and modded with the Voultar RGB amp to restore the correct color intensity. For some more in depth information about my general RGB setup, you can check out this pastebin here: https://pastebin.com/TtXx1PQx
Additionally, Ive decided to include a non-stretched version of this fight in an unlisted video. If youd like to learn more about why Im including this too, you can check out the description in the second video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5EvG_pqQBg
Super Machoman is probably considered the hardest of the usual 15 records that people usually match in this game. Even despite this, this strategy is still not that awful with a bit of determination and good execution.
This fight starts by pressing nothing on the first frame, then pressing Up and Y for the second frame, and unlike other fights that Ive mentioned these inputs on, this set has to be EXACTLY like this, because if you are not frame perfect on the first jab, then you will not be able to sneak in 2 left jabs before Macho starts to wind up for his first punch, to which he would just block your 2nd jab if youre too late.
After landing the frame perfect left jab and buffering your second left jab, Macho is going to wind up for a jab on your right, and youll need to land a right jab of your own to counter it. I try to aim these jabs at the exact frame Machos sprite changes from him being punched from your previous punch, to him starting to wind up for his own jab. Once you land that jab, just buffer 2 left gut punches, then Macho will throw out another identical jab that you need to counter in the exact same way, so counter it, and then buffer a low left gut punch into a low super.
Now, the phase 1 for this strategy is fairly strict. The dizzy meter never reaches 0 once youve landed the first frame perfect punch of the fight, which means the timing of your 2 counters are the deciding factor on whether or not Macho will get dizzy off of this strategy. With the way the dizzy meter shakes out, you can not lose a total of 4 frames across these two counters, which sounds lenient, but can be fairly tricky if youre not confident on how early you can actually land these counters, since they both come out pretty fast.
Once that low super goes off and you havent lost those frames, then Macho will become dizzy. To knock him down with a super punch, we have a few options for buffer strategies. The original one that works fine is 3 left jabs into a low super, which will take him down. However, since Im also optimizing the real time of this fight, I wanted to knock Macho down with an uppercut here for a different super knockdown animation thats 7 frames faster. If you buffer a tap duck (by tapping Down and waiting for your boxer to center on his own), then chain that into a left gut, then right gut, and buffer an uppercut out of this will take Macho down in an optimal real time too!
For phase 2, there are a couple of things to consider here. Macho has a couple of random things that he can do at the start of phase 2. First off, before the fight even starts, the game has decided whether or not Macho will do an exercise program at the start of phase 2. If hes destined to do one here, then your attempt is immediately over, because the primary thing we need for this strategy to work is for him to be in a position to take a punch immediately, and with any of the 3 programs, hes basically invincible until the animation is over.
The other thing is that Macho can do dances at the start of phase 2. Its actually fine if Macho dances one time, because hell be idle again before your first punch lands, but if he decides to dodge a second time, then your attempt will be instantly over. Macho also has the potential to randomly dodge super punches, and him doing that will end your attempt.
Despite his ability to do so in phase 1, I couldnt confirm whether or not Macho is capable of randomly blocking in phase 2. It could just be some weird luck Im locked into every time I check, but it doesnt seem to be a thing? Ill amend this statement if this doesnt end up being the case.
Considering all of this, phase 2 starts with you holding Up for the first frame of the phase to set Machos guard high, then immediately letting go of the Dpad and pressing A to throw a low super. If youre lucky, it will land without Macho dodging, exercising, or dancing twice. Once you land the super, Macho will try to throw a hook on your left side, which can be countered with a delayed left body blow. Once you land this counter, just buffer a low super and you should be home free!
If you can pull this off and get the record on it, you can absolutely get the record on any other fights this game has to offer, with only Narcis being one that you will likely not have the patience for.
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
![Super Punch Out!! - Narcis Prince [00832] (PAL WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/thr9c6EO0hw/hqdefault.jpg "Super Punch Out!! - Narcis Prince [00832] (PAL WR)
This run was done on an original PAL Super Nintendo cartridge of Super Punch-Out, as well as an original PAL Super Nintendo 1chip console that was recapped and modded with the Borti RGB amp.
Ive been meaning to get around to the PAL ILs for the longest time, but never found the right time to start. After my stroke, my muscle memory for games have been thrown off a bit, so I figure this is the best time to get these taken care of, because switching between the NTSC and PAL versions of this game is very confusing on the muscle memory anyways. Ill talk more about why Im doing the PAL fights in the description of my next video Ill upload (Gabby Jay), since Id like to spend the rest of this description talking about this fight.
Compared to the NTSC version of this fight, matching this TAS time is far less annoying, but still fairly annoying anyways lol. You have slightly less luck you have to put up with, due to it being impossible to do a triple gutter on PAL, making the strategy and pattern needed completely different.
Narcis can literally end your attempt on the 1st frame of the fight if he dances or walks to the side. Start the fight starts by holding Up for the 1st frame, then letting go and buffering a right gut for the 2nd frame. After that 1st gut punch, follow it up with another right gut punch. Youll then be set up to buffer a quick duck to automatically counter his hook. You can actually adjust to this if you can tell if your first punch is a frame slow, and do a quick dodge instead, which is 1 frame faster than a quick duck, but I had a hard time telling on my janky PAL setup, so I mostly stuck to just doing the quick duck every time.
In addition to the dances I mentioned before, he can also end your attempt before either gut punch by: twirling left or right, side stepping left or right and sliding away side to side. He can ALSO end your attempts during the punches themselves, by randomly block them outright, or doing a random retaliation in response.
Once you counter the hook, you just buffer a left jab while hes stunned. Punching Narcis in the face will make Narcis angry, and when hes angry, hell go to the back of the ring and comes back to throw one of 3 main patterns at you. The first 2 patterns are the one where he throws 2 jabs on your right side, which has 2 variants where hell either follow up with uppercuts or hooks, and we NEED the uppercuts for this strategy to work. The next pattern is 2 jabs on your left side, which will also be a reset, but its worth noting that if you can react and counter the hook frame perfectly and throw a stunned punch, you can get a time of 8.34, which is still really good. The final pattern is the one where he can throw a hook on your left side, then right side, which is also a reset.
After the jab lands, you need to buffer the following in any order that you prefer: 3 tap dodges, 1 low left gut, 1 left jab, and finally, end the sequence with 1 right jab. This jab will hit Narcis on the first frame that hes vulnerable from walking back after getting angry. Once it lands, you need to buffer another right jab, which will land on the first possible frame, then you need to pause as soon as the jab connects. This lets the super meter fill so that you can throw rapid jabs instantly when you unpause. Buffering them has a 6 frame window to repress the A button, otherwise youll be slow and youll lose time once the rapids are finished. With the correct pattern, Narcis can still dodge rapid jabs 2, 3, and 4, but if they all land he goes dizzy! Just do a quick duck into low super for a knockdown!
Phase 2 involves throwing a rapid jab into his jab that he tries to throw. I used a pseudo buffer of a duck into a quick duck, which worked fine for me, but I had two completed 8.34s before getting this one lol. Once the rapid lands, youll need to do a buffer for the final uppercut (I went with right gut, quick dodge, right got, into uppercut). This final uppercut can still kill your run at the very end if you get bad luck with him dodging or blocking, but I thankfully got it this time.
This took 4 days of attempts, with just small half hour bursts here and there. The video quality has an annoying issue during transitions where you can see power supply noise, which sucks but Im not redoing this fight lol. I found the issue so it wont show up for future videos (power supply needs to not be plugged into a power strip with other stuff active). I have the attempt session from power-on in an unlisted video here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=es1MJZ3zDz0
The total odds for this fight come out to 1 in about ~931, which is a decent bit better than NTSCs 1 in 1600. If youd like to see the math & events, itll be in the attempt session YouTube description.
With this fight done, the rest of the PAL ILs should be an absolute cakewalk. Ill do the rest chronologically and upload them every other couple of days.
Total stats:
3.39s: 98
6.75s: 4
Thanks for watching!")
![Super Punch Out!! - Mad Clown [00901] (NTSC WR)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u1lbpG4Wci4/hqdefault.jpg "Super Punch Out!! - Mad Clown [00901] (NTSC WR)
This run was done on an original Super Nintendo cartridge of Super Punch-Out, as well as an original Super Nintendo 1chip console that was recapped and modded with the Voultar RGB amp to restore the correct color intensity. For some more in depth information about my general RGB setup, you can check out this pastebin here: https://pastebin.com/TtXx1PQx
Additionally, Ive decided to include a non-stretched version of this fight in an unlisted video. If youd like to learn more about why Im including this too, you can check out the description in the second video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1bddZn6DtA
So, the longstanding 905 strategy on Mad Clown that was first published in the Super Punch Out TAS back in 5/29/2007 has been improved 2 times recently. To see that original strategy, you can check out my recent upload of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs6AEtl-HMs
Lixunis was finding strategies for the PAL version of Super Punch Out recently, which actually has several wildly different strategies from the NTSC version, but ended up checking the NTSC version for things recently for full game speedrun stuff. On 3/14/2022, he posted an improvement from 905 to 903 in the Super Punch Out speedrunning discord server.
That strategy involved 6 frame perfect things you needed to time, as well as an extra unstunned jab, which increases the luck needed greatly. However on 4/4/2022, he found *another* improvement that cut it down to 901, but requires *another* frame perfect punch, bringing the total to 7, making this fight the most difficult strategy to execute that this game has to offer.
I had a weirdly hard time matching this tied record, because despite how quickly I hit the 903, I kept messing up phase 2 every time I got there on pace during attempts. The phase 2 counter was the main culprit, as I just didnt have a great cue that worked for me consistently.
Usually you have to resort to feel on punches like this, but I simply wasnt great at getting the feel for that spacing down. I ended up not playing the game for ~2 weeks, but came back to it today and thankfully got it very quickly with no practice.
This fight starts with you pressing nothing for the first frame, and then pressing Up and Y to throw a left jab on the next frame. Follow that up with another buffered left jab, with Mad Clown hopefully standing still without random retaliations and not randomly blocking. From there, Clown will throw a jab on your left side, and youll need to do a delayed left jab to counter it.
Once the jab is countered, youll have to land a right jab on the same frame that Clowns stun ends, which is a very awkward timing. I opted to do a pseudo buffer by timing a quick duck shortly after I visually see Clowns sprite change into his stunned sprite. Then you have to throw a left jab with a *very* small delay, then delay a right jab by 1 frame so Clowns move timer advances just enough to do buffered rapid jabs on Clowns upcoming hook.
Buffering rapid jabs requires pressing A, letting go when you see your character start his super, then repressing it. That rapid jab will hit him out of that hook animation and make him instantly go dizzy. Since rapid jabs made him dizzy, the buffer strategy needs to be different than the one in the 905. Hold left, and dont let go until your character centers himself, then press Left then Up in rapid succession, along with A to throw an uppercut to knock Clown down.
Clown opens phase 2 by either him doing a taunt where hes pointing to his stomach, which means hell retaliate when you attempt to throw a punch, or by standing there. Start by pressing nothing on the first frame the fight starts back up, then press Up + A to throw an uppercut (theres a 3/8 chance he dodges). Once that lands, Clown will do a jab on your right, that you need to counter with a right jab, and then buffer another uppercut for knockdown 2.
If you got this far, then congratulations, because youve basically finished the fight! For phase 3, Mad Clown always opens with Show Time, which involves him throwing really fast jabs. Because of Show Time, you can easily counter his first jab by buffering a right jab as soon as the phase begins, and because of how fast phase 2 was, hell come back with so little health that hell go right back down when the jab lands.
I did this fight offline while watching other streams, so unfortunately theres no live reaction. I did record the full attempt session, which totals to about 11 and a half minutes, so I figured I might as well upload it in its entirety too. You can check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxNGng8q4DI
Also here are some stats on how many frame perfect phase 1s I got, as well as how each of them failed to net me 901.
Frame perfect phase 1s: 35
Dodged in phase 2: 9
Taunted in phase 2: 10
Too slow in phase 2: 8
Too fast on phase 2 uppercut: 3
Too fast on phase 2 counter: 4
Anyways, thanks for watching!")
