periwinkle | "Just do the normal strat 4Head" #2 (3 HP Monster X) @periwinkle. | Uploaded July 2020 | Updated October 2024, 1 hour ago.
The sequel that nobody asked for. Here's the first video in this series: youtu.be/F5XE77R_HE4
Unlike that video, where everything there can actually be done (relatively) consistently, this one...is a bit of a stretch, to say the least. The main strat featured here is the one-cycle phase 1, without needing to use the laser walls for abusing i-frames. It's...*almost* consistent (much more so with Level 2 Blade than with Level 1), but very difficult to pull off, especially at 60 FPS (I've had more luck with it on the original game at 50 FPS). So, probably not worth going for, unless you really need that extra bit of time save.
The sequel that nobody asked for. Here's the first video in this series: youtu.be/F5XE77R_HE4
Unlike that video, where everything there can actually be done (relatively) consistently, this one...is a bit of a stretch, to say the least. The main strat featured here is the one-cycle phase 1, without needing to use the laser walls for abusing i-frames. It's...*almost* consistent (much more so with Level 2 Blade than with Level 1), but very difficult to pull off, especially at 60 FPS (I've had more luck with it on the original game at 50 FPS). So, probably not worth going for, unless you really need that extra bit of time save.
![[TAS] Super Mario Bros. Both Quests in 8:00.509 (7:57.231 RTA timing)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OyD69AZD6vk/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Super Mario Bros. Both Quests in 8:00.509 (7:57.231 RTA timing)
Made by myself and Kriller37 (who initially suggested the idea of crouch-clipping in 1-2 to save a framerule, and also found and TASed the second quest 8-2 BBG setup).
This TAS has been basically complete for almost two years at this point, but neither myself nor Kriller37 had gotten around to publishing it until now.
This run also obsoletes my warps Fire Mario TAS (https://youtu.be/85B3_F3vi2E), saving one framerule in 1-2 for a time of 4:59.690 (4:56.412 RTA timing).
Grabbing a fire flower in Quest 1 and using it to fire kill the first 8-4 Bowser turns out to be barely faster than doing the entire run as small Mario...by 4 frames.
The fire kill itself saves 137 frames from skipping the bridge collapsing animation, which ends up rounding to 7 framerules, or 147 frames. However, grabbing the two powerups costs 122 frames and one framerule (in 1-2) over the small-only route, bringing the overall time save to just 147 – 122 – 21 = 4 frames.
Fun fact, with big/fire Mario you can actually get 1 framerule faster in 4-2 compared to the lightning 4-2 framerule that the small Mario warps TAS gets. But because I chose to grab the fire flower in 4-2, I lost that framerule putting me back on the standard lightning framerule. I could have alternatively grabbed the fire flower in 4-1, 8-2, or 8-3; these grabs all lose 1 framerule but then I can make up that time by saving the extra framerule in 4-2. So at the end of the day, it doesnt really matter whether you grab the fire flower in 4-1, 4-2, 8-2, or 8-3—they are all the same speed.
(Although, the 8-3 fire flower grab *is* very suspiciously close to losing 0 framerules. Both Kriller37 and I have tried to save that framerule, to no avail. But maybe theres still some hidden strategy that could work...?)
FM2 movie file download: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1541278671/both%20quests.fm2")
