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Gregg Henriques is a clinical psychologist and professor at James Madison University. He is known for his Unified Theory of Knowledge (UTOK), which integrates various domains of psychology into a coherent framework.
Bonnita Roy is the founder of Alderlore Insight Center, a non-profit educational organization and the curator of The POP-UP School, an online learning community exploring new ways of thinking and acting.
Alexander Bard is a philosopher and futurist specializing in the relationship between humanity and technology, with a profound interest in psychoanalysis and anthropology to understand the impact of technological change on interpersonal relationships.
What drives our social connections and sense of belonging? Recorded live at UTOK Consilience Conference 2024, this episode features Gregg Henriques, Alexander Bard, Bonnitta Roy, and John Vervaeke examining the convergences and fault lines between transcendent naturalism and emergentism and the profound implications these theories have on our understanding of reality. By critiquing materialism, idealism, and dualism, the panel advocates for a new 21st-century philosophical framework that integrates Eastern and Western insights, emphasizing relationalism and dialectical thinking. Enriched with references to thinkers like Hegel, Whitehead, Nietzsche, and Deleuze, this dialogue explores the roles of cognitive science, spirituality, and community practices. Join this journey to uncover the essence of ultimate reality and the transformative potential of sacredness while underscoring the importance of humility, love, and pragmatic approaches to contemporary challenges.
Support John's groundbreaking work and gain exclusive access to live Q&A sessions, early video releases, and more by joining our Patreon community! patreon.com/johnvervaeke
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00:00 Introduction: Setting the Stage for Transcendent Naturalism and Emergentism
03:30 John Vervaeke: Outline of Transcendent Naturalism
19:45 Bonnitta Roy's Perspective on Naturalism and Stratified Reality
32:00 Alexander Bard on the Necessity of Metaphysics and Transcendent Emergentism
48:00 Group Dialogue on UTOC Framework and Integrating Perspectives
01:11:00 Exploring Zoofism and the Philosophical Silk Road
01:18:45 Q&A: Integrating Transcendental Emergentism with Science and Philosophy
01:31:10 Alexander Bard on Integrating Hegel with Modern Thinkers
01:33:50 Ontology of Pure Relationality and the Future of Digital Networks and Decentralization
01:40:05 Stability, Relational Thinking, and Dynamic Systems
01:43:30 Final Thoughts and Reflections: Convergences and Future Directions
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Join the Vervaeke Foundation in our mission to advance the scientifically rigorous pursuit of wisdom and make a meaningful impact in the world. vervaekefoundation.org
Discover practices that deepen your virtues and help you connect more deeply with reality and relationships by joining Awaken to Meaning today. awakentomeaning.com
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Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode
Evan Thompson
Adam Frank
Marcelo Gleiser
James Blachowicz
Alicia Juarrero
Wolfgang Smith
Aspects of Truth: A New Religious Metaphysics by Catherine Pickstock
Willard Van Orman Quine
Hilary Putnam
Quine-Duhem
Immanuel Kant
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
James J. Gibson
Martin Heidegger
James Filler
Kyoto School
John L. Schellenberg
Roy Bhaskar
Sabine Hossenfelder
Eric Weinstein
Alfred North Whitehead
Friedrich Nietzsche
Henri Bergson
Dan Chiappe
Matt Segall
Bruno Latour
Diana Fosha
Gilles Deleuze
Process and Event by Alexander Bard and Jan Söderqvist
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twitter.com/vervaeke_john
youtube.com/@johnvervaeke
patreon.com/johnvervaeke
Follow Gregg Henriques
gregghenriques.com
twitter.com/henriqgx
unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org
Follow Bonnitta Roy
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Thank you for watching!
Gregg Henriques is a clinical psychologist and professor at James Madison University. He is known for his Unified Theory of Knowledge (UTOK), which integrates various domains of psychology into a coherent framework.
Bonnita Roy is the founder of Alderlore Insight Center, a non-profit educational organization and the curator of The POP-UP School, an online learning community exploring new ways of thinking and acting.
Alexander Bard is a philosopher and futurist specializing in the relationship between humanity and technology, with a profound interest in psychoanalysis and anthropology to understand the impact of technological change on interpersonal relationships.
What drives our social connections and sense of belonging? Recorded live at UTOK Consilience Conference 2024, this episode features Gregg Henriques, Alexander Bard, Bonnitta Roy, and John Vervaeke examining the convergences and fault lines between transcendent naturalism and emergentism and the profound implications these theories have on our understanding of reality. By critiquing materialism, idealism, and dualism, the panel advocates for a new 21st-century philosophical framework that integrates Eastern and Western insights, emphasizing relationalism and dialectical thinking. Enriched with references to thinkers like Hegel, Whitehead, Nietzsche, and Deleuze, this dialogue explores the roles of cognitive science, spirituality, and community practices. Join this journey to uncover the essence of ultimate reality and the transformative potential of sacredness while underscoring the importance of humility, love, and pragmatic approaches to contemporary challenges.
Support John's groundbreaking work and gain exclusive access to live Q&A sessions, early video releases, and more by joining our Patreon community! patreon.com/johnvervaeke
—
00:00 Introduction: Setting the Stage for Transcendent Naturalism and Emergentism
03:30 John Vervaeke: Outline of Transcendent Naturalism
19:45 Bonnitta Roy's Perspective on Naturalism and Stratified Reality
32:00 Alexander Bard on the Necessity of Metaphysics and Transcendent Emergentism
48:00 Group Dialogue on UTOC Framework and Integrating Perspectives
01:11:00 Exploring Zoofism and the Philosophical Silk Road
01:18:45 Q&A: Integrating Transcendental Emergentism with Science and Philosophy
01:31:10 Alexander Bard on Integrating Hegel with Modern Thinkers
01:33:50 Ontology of Pure Relationality and the Future of Digital Networks and Decentralization
01:40:05 Stability, Relational Thinking, and Dynamic Systems
01:43:30 Final Thoughts and Reflections: Convergences and Future Directions
—
Join the Vervaeke Foundation in our mission to advance the scientifically rigorous pursuit of wisdom and make a meaningful impact in the world. vervaekefoundation.org
Discover practices that deepen your virtues and help you connect more deeply with reality and relationships by joining Awaken to Meaning today. awakentomeaning.com
—
Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode
Evan Thompson
Adam Frank
Marcelo Gleiser
James Blachowicz
Alicia Juarrero
Wolfgang Smith
Aspects of Truth: A New Religious Metaphysics by Catherine Pickstock
Willard Van Orman Quine
Hilary Putnam
Quine-Duhem
Immanuel Kant
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
James J. Gibson
Martin Heidegger
James Filler
Kyoto School
John L. Schellenberg
Roy Bhaskar
Sabine Hossenfelder
Eric Weinstein
Alfred North Whitehead
Friedrich Nietzsche
Henri Bergson
Dan Chiappe
Matt Segall
Bruno Latour
Diana Fosha
Gilles Deleuze
Process and Event by Alexander Bard and Jan Söderqvist
—
Follow John Vervaeke
johnvervaeke.com
twitter.com/vervaeke_john
youtube.com/@johnvervaeke
patreon.com/johnvervaeke
Follow Gregg Henriques
gregghenriques.com
twitter.com/henriqgx
unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org
Follow Bonnitta Roy
youtube.com/@bonnittaroy
bonnittaroy.substack.com
Follow Alexander Bard
twitter.com/Bardissimo
alexanderbard.blogspot.com
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Thank you for watching!








![Dialogues on Transformation: The Journey of Insightful Healing with Terri Dentry and Tim Adalin
In this episode of “Voices with Vervaeke,” John Vervaeke is joined by Terri Dentry and Tim Adalin to discuss their unique perspectives on the intricate journey from chronic pain to insightful healing. The conversation delves into the psychological and existential dimensions that underpin true transformation, emphasizing the importance of dialogical practices and synoptic integration in achieving profound personal growth and understanding. Through a rich dialogue that navigates the nexus between philosophy, psychology, and therapeutic practice, this conversation offers deep insights into the art of healing, the cultivation of wisdom, and the transformative power of human connectivity. It stands as an essential discussion for those seeking to understand the holistic nature of healing and the potential for personal and collective evolution in the face of adversity.
Guest Bio and Links:
Terri Dentry is a distinguished PhD graduate in interprofessional practice, dedicated to bridging the gap between traditional medical practices and holistic wellness approaches. With a keen focus on patient empowerment and integrated health solutions, Terri advocates for a healthcare model that values dialogical reasoning and personal journey understanding, aiming to transform patient care into a collaborative, multidimensional experience. If you’d like to reach out to Terri to share your own personal story or thoughts, please feel free to email her at terri@thinkred.com.au.
Tim Adalin, founder of Voicecraft, explores the intricate dynamics between participation and transformation. His philosophical inquiry spans metaphysics, consciousness, and identity, underpinning Voicecrafts mission to enrich dialogue on complex modern challenges. You can learn more about Tim Adalin through his website, https://www.timadalin.xyz/, follow him on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKeq9IUfzw-QvDKP7N9K8rw and on his Substack, https://timadalin.substack.com/.
Resources:
Join our new Patreon
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The Vervaeke Foundation
https://vervaekefoundation.org/
Awaken to Meaning
https://awakentomeaning.com/
Voicecraft https://www.voicecraft.io/
Redefining Healing: The Synergy of Psychedelic Integration and Interprofessional Practice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o87S6GtVn8&t=30s
Chronic Pain, Trust, and Ethics: A Conversation with Terri Dentry and Nate Kinch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzug-jtx1PA&t=224s
Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis https://www.amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926
Quotes:
This is not something about this immediate moment of chronic pain requiring a healing process. This is a worldview issue that is happening to all of us from the very start. - Terri Dentry [00:14:22]
Were trying to get away from some of the fundamental ways in which agency is being implicitly understood or misunderstood in regular medical practice, and restore a proper appreciation of agency. - John Vervaeke [00:09:57]
Partly what this conversation is pointing to is that theres going to be a different kind of tension essentially immediately experienced when entering into a different relational context. - Tim Adalin [01:11:20]
Glossary of Terms:
Synoptic Integration: The integration of diverse perspectives and modalities to achieve a comprehensive understanding and healing approach.
Interprofessional Practice: Collaboration between practitioners from different disciplines for holistic patient care.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction, Research Background, and the Seeing More Project
00:03:50 - Transformational Journeys and the Power of Shared Pain, Vulnerability, and Relationality
00:11:36 - Agency and Relationality in Medical Practice
00:17:09 - Embodying the Meaning Crisis: Trauma, Narratives, and the Healing Process
00:28:43 - The Pivot Problem: Balancing Finitude and Transcendence in the Healing Journey
00:34:03 - Criticisms of Therapy and the Need for a Shared Worldview
00:44:12 - Dialogos and the Philosophical Silk Road Project
00:54:05 - The Significance of Dialogical Reasoning in Daily Life and Medical Interactions
01:03:34 - Building Structures for Belonging and Support: Challenges and Solutions
01:12:36 - Conclusion: Interprofessional Clinics and the Complexity of Shared Decision-Making
Connect with John:
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Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke
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