His Song Calls My Soul to Come Home: Ulysses in a Conversation about Music, Meaning and Mystery @TheMeaningCode

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The sound problems clear up by 02:30.
Wide ranging conversation on meaning and life, including dips into shamanism, music as a healing force, the song as a tutelary, music as apologetic and the dimensionality of music and its place in the cosmos, or the place of the cosmos inside music.

Videos, songs and books discussed in this episode.

Ulysses' podcast, Music, Meaning and Mystery, YouTube link:
youtube.com/channel/UCrV5eNIgo75Aj4F39rFX2cA

Karen and Michael discuss Wolfram's Theory
youtube.com/watch?v=SzUEzVZiAoo&t=3s

The Beauty of the World is a Consequence of the Nature of the Sacrifice
youtu.be/6cbq4u2C8dk

The Untitled Hymn by Chris Rice.
Search for this on YouTube or iTunes. If I link to it here, I'll get a strike

Books by C. S. Lewis:
The Great Divorce
Abolition of Man
That Hideous Strength
The Screwtape Letters
The Magician's Nephew (This is the one where the Lord sings the world into creation)

Previous videos on Music with Travis Woyen
youtu.be/_52mzQQROsI
youtu.be/ImexUPpQlmA
youtu.be/z6ngQLUp6Ac

Twitter Convo with Ken Lowry of Climbing Mt. Sophia: Awareness Becomes Actualized through Attention

Sophia: That Moment When the Glory of God Shines Thru the Universe (Michael Martin, Author & Farmer)

Opening the Eyes of the Heart: Til We Have Faces by C. S. Lewis with Lucas Van Os

The Earthquake that Changed Everything: Out of Nihilism into Agape

A Symphony of Choices Over Time: Diving into Wolframs Causal Relationships in Slices of Computation

Andrea Hiott: Mind as Movement, Ecological Perception, Attention and Measurement

Barfields Argument for the Gift of Language: Its Power, Purpose and Past

A Sociologist Walks into An Estuary Conference and Interesting Things Happen

$Michael Levin and John Vervaeke in Dialogos: Towards an Ontology of Causal Structures Dr. Michael Levin and Dr. John Vervaeke discuss findings on cognition, consciousness and placebo. Where is the line? Links follow timestamps. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 02:30 John begins with the question, “How do you define and differentiate cognition, intelligence, consciousness” 05:40 Mike tackles the same question 08:10 Can there be relevance realization at the cellular level? 14:00 Mike’s life turned upside down by the realization of the gradual development from oocyte to adult mind. Amazing plasticity. William James’ definition of intelligence 19:45 John asks about top-down causation and rejecting just a bottom up approach. The whole has a causal power not attributable just to the parts. 21:00 JV Identity going all the way down and emergence going all the way up. How to identify the ontology? 22:00 ML Let’s assume LaPlace’s demon could exist as a thought experiment. Tracking the micro states is an observer only, it cannot act. All the states are the same to you. But we want a worldview that helps you do things. A participatory worldview. KW: is he saying that one cannot act without a substructure of value? 25:45 JV: I’ve been making epistemological arguments around the idea that any proper worldview has to give ontological status to scientists making measurements. 27:00 JV introduces neoplatonism, emanation down and emergence up as a way to integrate science and spirituality in an intellectually rigorous way 28:50 ML: I’ve been thinking hard about this Platonic worldview but not when in the biology circles, only in a forum like this, focused on meaning. 30:00 Logic gates come with a truth table. Where does that come from? 30:55 An index into the world of possibilities. Where does the capacity come from for xenobots to form within 48 hours? 33:00 Evidence for fractal levels of cognition, information exchange… But have you ever looked at the placebo effect, which for a pure reductionist is a very hard thing to explain? 35:30 ML’s study on gene regulatory networks and the placebo effect. 38:30 Albert Mason on psycho dermatology (links below) 41:45 KW asks a “woo woo” question. Hilarity ensues. 45:00 JV The importance of rigorous scientific research to verify “experience” 49:30 ML Biochemical and bioelectrical signals and how they could eventuate change across layers 52:00 ML Can we train molecular networks to stimulate healing? Useful links for further study: Here’s the prep conversation I did with Glen, the physicist: Worlds in Collision: Intelligence through the Lens of Wolfgang Smith, Michael Levin, Stephen Wolfram https://youtu.be/3hmeamwZq9c Background material The full series of Awakening from The Meaning Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ John Vervaekes 4 Ps of Knowing https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuit-ucfcXN8QDPMc6DXbTHq Michael Levin: https://youtu.be/GVOxAOflRho Dr. Levins work on limb regeneration: https://youtu.be/N9Oli5MPLbY The Levin Lab at Tufts U: https://ase.tufts.edu/biology/labs/levin/research/newdirections.htm Erik Hoel: a great Substack column in addition to his science. See section b) on https://www.erikphoel.com/science.html Albert Mason: http://www7.bbk.ac.uk/hiddenpersuaders/blog/albert-mason-medicine-magic-hypnotism/ https://npsi.us.com/uploads/documents/MasonInterviewMRobinson2011.pdf The book on causation mentioned by John: The Vertical Ascent by Wolfgang Smith A talk with Wolfgang Smith: Dr. Wolfgang Smith, Renowned Physicist, on Vertical Causation, Irreducible Wholeness and Meaning https://youtu.be/8NWHGX53agc Karens websites: https://karenwongart.com https://TheMeaningCode.com$

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