Twitter Convo with Ken Lowry of Climbing Mt. Sophia: Awareness Becomes Actualized through Attention @TheMeaningCode

The Meaning Code | Twitter Convo with Ken Lowry of Climbing Mt. Sophia: Awareness Becomes Actualized through Attention @TheMeaningCode | Uploaded September 2022 | Updated October 2024, 19 hours ago.
Ken Lowry joins The Meaning Code to discuss his tweet:
"More recent exploration for me seems to indicate the transcendent God beyond the Self is analogous to the deepest substrate behind the Self.
The waning post-enlightenment had a lot to do with the overemphasized reality of the material over the intellectual/conscious."

We take it apart and discuss it through the lens of John Vervaeke's concept of Relevance Realization.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro
02:00 How Ken uses Twitter
04:45 Climbing on Mt. Sophia
07:23 Ken's Twitter comment for discussion
11:45 What is holding the Christian story back?
15:20 How is sin precisely calibrated in the Vervaekian way of looking @ the self?
21:45 When Christ is lifted up
23:45 Christ as the new Adam
30:25 The gifts offered by the transcendent Good
31:20 The postmodern is the necessary place we had to go because of the fall
36:25 The vital necessity for each perspective to be expressed
44:10 Tell the Truth, or at least don't lie
52:45 The trouble with utopian thinking
55:35 The second half o the tweet, "emphasizing of the material over the intellectual"
56:15 "Time is the flow of pattern into potential"
"Apertures for the divine movement of time"
"Time is the functional patterning of space"
1:00:45 A visual summary of Wolfram's physics
wolframphysics.org/visual-summary/dark

1:03:43 M. Pageau's teaching on space and time
"Convergence on this theory from many perspectives"
" More and more people pointing to the top"

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