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Discussion about the role and power of visual art in facilitating an understanding of the Homeric classics. In particular, discussion turned to the capacity of artists to capture so much of later Rhapsodies in a single image, including the specific turning of Achilles' head as a nod to the transformation and evolution of his character.
On this point Professor Nagy noted the capacity of visual art to capture thousands of frames in a single image observing how Achilles himself can be visualized in different ways. Other themes relating to the character included Achilles' status as an athlete and his role in chariot performance.
Analogies were also made between the classical paintings and epic on the one hand and movie adaptation of a good book on the other.
Participants also highlighted the importance of Patroklos in the narrative and Iliad through his depictions and prominence in visual images. Related to this discussion was an acknowledgment of the importance of psūkhē. Professor Nagy pointed out how it is quite apt that psūkhē is as complex in visual art as it is in verbal art.
Recorded in Spring 2021 during v15 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hours 7 & 8, and the Discussion Questions.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith DeStone, and members of the HeroesX Team.
Discussion about the role and power of visual art in facilitating an understanding of the Homeric classics. In particular, discussion turned to the capacity of artists to capture so much of later Rhapsodies in a single image, including the specific turning of Achilles' head as a nod to the transformation and evolution of his character.
On this point Professor Nagy noted the capacity of visual art to capture thousands of frames in a single image observing how Achilles himself can be visualized in different ways. Other themes relating to the character included Achilles' status as an athlete and his role in chariot performance.
Analogies were also made between the classical paintings and epic on the one hand and movie adaptation of a good book on the other.
Participants also highlighted the importance of Patroklos in the narrative and Iliad through his depictions and prominence in visual images. Related to this discussion was an acknowledgment of the importance of psūkhē. Professor Nagy pointed out how it is quite apt that psūkhē is as complex in visual art as it is in verbal art.
Recorded in Spring 2021 during v15 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hours 7 & 8, and the Discussion Questions.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith DeStone, and members of the HeroesX Team.

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Discussion topics include: reading the Iliad, and the Odyssey; poetry, song, performance, and the oral poetic system, in ancient Greek song culture; slow and fast reading; the Catalogue of Ships; the anger [mēnis] of Achilles; withdrawal of Achilles.
Recorded during v3 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, covering questions raised by participants about Hours 1–5.
With Claudia Filos, Gregory Nagy, Leonard Muellner, Allie Marbry HeroesX v03 Office Hours 01 | Questions about Epic and Lyric](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EZVYwaveXxo/mqdefault.jpg)



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Discussion topics include responses to comments and questions from the community about the relationships between: Poetry and prose; Homeric and Hesiodic traditions; Justice and vegetal images
In particular Gregory Nagy and Keith Stone discuss an Attic red-figure column-krater (c. 450 BCE) that features (from left to right) Artemis holding an oinochoe; Apollo holding a laurel branch and a phiale, about to pour a libation on the altar left; the personification of the Delos island on which the scene takes place (see the palm-tree).
Recorded in Fall 2016 during v6 of of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hour 12.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith Stone
Image credit: Attic red-figure column-krater, c. 450 BCE, National Archaeological Museum of Spain.
Photo by Marie-Lan Nguyen (User:Jastrow), 2008-05-02 [CC BY 2.5 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5)], via Wikimedia Commons, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apollo_Artemis_Delos_MAN.jpgpollo, Artemis, and a palm tree. HeroesX v06 Office Hours 07 | Justice, Palm Trees, and the Transition to Prose](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/F0mqR2r_mbw/mqdefault.jpg)




