Uploaded September 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 day ago
In his first conversation with Paul, Mark Wolynn ( paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-147-mark-wolynn-dna-are-our-ancestors-acting-through-us ) shared his personal journey that led him to become a renowned authority on inherited trauma and write a best-selling book about it.
Mark returns to talk about his recently revised landmark book, It Didn’t Start With You ( amzn.to/4zC48LB ), and a new workbook that accompanies it ( amzn.to/4zCOKyr ) and to describe how our DNA and genes are affected by trauma across generations this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Mark and his Inherited Family Trauma Training Program and workshops along with booking a private session with him on his website ( markwolynn.com ). You’ll also find him on Facebook ( facebook.com/MarkWolynn ) and Instagram ( instagram.com/markwolynn ). If you need help, contact Giovanna Taormina (email her at giovanna@markwolynn.com ) for a list of practitioners Mark has trained.
0:00 Intro
9:13 Despite writing a book on generational trauma, Mark’s work with clients mainly focuses on attachment trauma.
11:02 “Throw away the old book!”
18:45 While some pay attention to attachment styles, Mark looks at breaks between people and how they function.
25:27 Describing generational trauma.
32:00 The first case that taught Mark how to look for inherited family trauma and changed his life 30 years ago.
40:57 Where does this deeply traumatic information reside?
49:12 How our DNA and genes are affected by trauma across generations.
52:49 Mark describes the trauma experience from a spiritual perspective.
1:03:50 Mark’s psychotic break at age 24 was the beginning of his healing and how he began helping others.
1:08:45 Mark regains his eyesight after healing his trauma inherited from his mother and grandparents.
1:12:36 Paul’s inherited trauma.
1:24:27 How many generations of inherited trauma could humans carry?
1:32:19 “Our inhumanity toward others is often a mirror of our own inhumanity toward ourselves.”
1:42:04 Mark’s core sentence tool in action.
1:49:37 Positive traits can be transferred and inherited among generations too.
1:56:31 Examples of verbal and non-verbal trauma language.
2:01:31 Mark’s The Official It Didn’t Start With You Workbook is designed to be used whether you read his book or not.
2:13:16 Every day, take a few moments to pause and take inventory of what you’re feeling and, especially, the divine nature within you.
Listen to Paul's conversation with Mark Wolynn and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/415-healing-inherited-family-trauma-with-mark-wolynn
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Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music
In his first conversation with Paul, Mark Wolynn ( paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/episode-147-mark-wolynn-dna-are-our-ancestors-acting-through-us ) shared his personal journey that led him to become a renowned authority on inherited trauma and write a best-selling book about it.
Mark returns to talk about his recently revised landmark book, It Didn’t Start With You ( amzn.to/4zC48LB ), and a new workbook that accompanies it ( amzn.to/4zCOKyr ) and to describe how our DNA and genes are affected by trauma across generations this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Mark and his Inherited Family Trauma Training Program and workshops along with booking a private session with him on his website ( markwolynn.com ). You’ll also find him on Facebook ( facebook.com/MarkWolynn ) and Instagram ( instagram.com/markwolynn ). If you need help, contact Giovanna Taormina (email her at giovanna@markwolynn.com ) for a list of practitioners Mark has trained.
0:00 Intro
9:13 Despite writing a book on generational trauma, Mark’s work with clients mainly focuses on attachment trauma.
11:02 “Throw away the old book!”
18:45 While some pay attention to attachment styles, Mark looks at breaks between people and how they function.
25:27 Describing generational trauma.
32:00 The first case that taught Mark how to look for inherited family trauma and changed his life 30 years ago.
40:57 Where does this deeply traumatic information reside?
49:12 How our DNA and genes are affected by trauma across generations.
52:49 Mark describes the trauma experience from a spiritual perspective.
1:03:50 Mark’s psychotic break at age 24 was the beginning of his healing and how he began helping others.
1:08:45 Mark regains his eyesight after healing his trauma inherited from his mother and grandparents.
1:12:36 Paul’s inherited trauma.
1:24:27 How many generations of inherited trauma could humans carry?
1:32:19 “Our inhumanity toward others is often a mirror of our own inhumanity toward ourselves.”
1:42:04 Mark’s core sentence tool in action.
1:49:37 Positive traits can be transferred and inherited among generations too.
1:56:31 Examples of verbal and non-verbal trauma language.
2:01:31 Mark’s The Official It Didn’t Start With You Workbook is designed to be used whether you read his book or not.
2:13:16 Every day, take a few moments to pause and take inventory of what you’re feeling and, especially, the divine nature within you.
Listen to Paul's conversation with Mark Wolynn and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/415-healing-inherited-family-trauma-with-mark-wolynn
Thanks to our awesome sponsors!
• Paleovalley paleovalley.com/chek15 (save 15% on your first purchase)
• Organifi organifi.com/chek20 (save 20% on your purchase by using the code CHEK20 at checkout)
• CHEK Institute chekinstitute.com/movement (watch Paul’s Movement as Medicine workshop for FREE!)
• BIOptimizers bioptimizers.com/spiritgym (save an extra 15% on your purchase by using the code PAUL15 at checkout)
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Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music









![The Ancient Template Thats Been Guiding Your Life All Along | Chip Richards
As you know, the Hero’s Journey is one of my favorite tools to help my clients take on their challenges and begin to evolve into the people they are meant to be.
Former Olympic Coach and Leadership Guru Chip Richards joins me on a deep dive into the Hero’s Journey and how it can transform lives this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Chip on his website at https://chiprichards.global/ and on social media via YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@newearthcreations , Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/chip.richards and Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/chiprichards.life/ .
For Spirit Gym listeners: Chip is offering listeners a special discount to join him on a Heart of Leadership retreat, such as the upcoming trip to Tonga to swim with humpback whales, or to be part of the Heart of Leadership 12-month mentorship program. For more details and dates, reach out to Chip on his website at https://chiprichards.global/ and mention you heard him on Spirit Gym. (Special offers from Spirit Gym guests are time-sensitive and at their discretion to redeem after 30 days.)
0:00 Intro
3:18 The Shero’s Journey.
6:09 Chip’s long ago meetup with Paul in Australia that changed the story arc of his Australian Olympic Ski team.
10:19 Parallel influences across oceans.
26:16 Being mythed.
32:01 The twisting, winding path of personal chaos is there to help us discover the divine essence within.
41:06 Chip’s first call to adventure as an elite athlete.
51:51 Paul has experienced the Hero’s Journey many times.
1:07:06 “Who we really are is not the programming.”
1:18:16 Tests and allies.
1:27:39 A true commitment.
1:34:10 What happens during the Hero’s Journey when everything falls apart?
1:39:03 Nature bathing surrounded by whales that allows people to let go and just be.
1:56:39 “One of the things that makes [Paul’s] work so special: You are living the myth we’re talking about right now.”
2:05:55 The elixir: The deeper answer that reveals why you went on this journey and become the embodied expression of that knowledge.
2:15:48 The Hero’s Journey: A journey from concept to experience.
2:26:13 Tests that Chip and Paul are facing.
2:34:15 Protecting the hives with very simple devotion.
2:48:14 How to use the Hero’s Journey as a self-reflection/self-realization tool.
Listen to Pauls conversation with Chip Richards and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at https://paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/386-the-ancient-template-thats-been-guiding-your-life-all-along-with-chip-richards/
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Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music The Ancient Template Thats Been Guiding Your Life All Along | Chip Richards](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rlUjpM9CKAU/mqdefault.jpg)
