Hey Birt! | Going to POT – Investigating the C64 paddle/POT inputs and devices, a deeeeep dive… @HeyBirt | Uploaded April 2021 | Updated October 2024, 6 hours ago.
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This video started out with a simple mission. To investigate the Suncom 4-button controllers used for ‘The Party Quiz Game’. These odd controllers use the paddle inputs, so this set off a quest to learn how the paddle input worked and how to read them.
Along the way we wind up characterizing the response curve of the SID’s POT inputs, comparing those to the Armsid, discovering a problem with the Armsid POT inputs on a few of the very first PCBs, fixing that with an experimental firmware update. It was a lot of work, and a lot of time spent collecting data, but it was also a lot of fun.
Top finish things off we look at the surprising number of input devices that made use of the POT inputs. Who knew there were so many? Join us…
Timeline:
02:00 – Overview of paddle inputs
03:13 – Design of experiments
08:28 – How the SID works
10:08 – How does the Armsid compare?
12:31 – Testing Suncom controllers
14:09 – Devices using pot inputs
17:23 – Wrap up
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BASIC test code used: github.com/Jeff-Birt/C64_POT_Test_Code
Decade box video: youtu.be/9csw8z_3r18
Credits
Chiptune Thing No. 3 "Victory" by Steven O’Brien soundcloud.com/stevenobrien
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Music provided by Music for Creators youtu.be/ujIMRIJ1JG8
C64 paddle Image: breadbox64.com
Atari CX-85: Evan-Amos, CC BY-SA 3.0, creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0, via Wikimedia Commons
Cardco Cardkey: https://commodore.software/downloads/category/677-cardco-devices
Atari CX-80: atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Atari%20CX80%20Trak-Ball%20controller
Cheetah Annihlitor: c64-wiki.de/wiki/Cheetah_Annihilator
1351 Mouse: c64-wiki.com/wiki/Mouse_1351
Atari driving controller: wikiwand.com/en/Atari_2600_hardware
RCFS 64: lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77569
Mssiah: youtube.com/watch?v=4cjgSaRsw5s
Party Quiz Game: pinterest.com/pin/205547170472613195
Atari CX-21: youtu.be/TJlBSv8Z6Zc
Atari CX-77: atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Atari%20CX77%20Touch%20Tablet
Koala Pad: oldcomputr.com/koala-technologies-koalapad-touchtablet
Suncom Animation Station: amigalove.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1513
AtariLab: By Brian Jepson - flickr.com/photos/bjepson/380142842/in/photolist-zAkdW-zAkcW-zAka2-zAkhA-zAkgp-zAkkz-zAkn6-n1txeg-FV8tM, CC BY-SA 2.5, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=45452268
C64 Security Dongles: c64copyprotection.com/dongle-protection
Video sponsor: PCBWay: $5 for 2 layer PCBs with 24hr turnaround at pcbway.com
This video started out with a simple mission. To investigate the Suncom 4-button controllers used for ‘The Party Quiz Game’. These odd controllers use the paddle inputs, so this set off a quest to learn how the paddle input worked and how to read them.
Along the way we wind up characterizing the response curve of the SID’s POT inputs, comparing those to the Armsid, discovering a problem with the Armsid POT inputs on a few of the very first PCBs, fixing that with an experimental firmware update. It was a lot of work, and a lot of time spent collecting data, but it was also a lot of fun.
Top finish things off we look at the surprising number of input devices that made use of the POT inputs. Who knew there were so many? Join us…
Timeline:
02:00 – Overview of paddle inputs
03:13 – Design of experiments
08:28 – How the SID works
10:08 – How does the Armsid compare?
12:31 – Testing Suncom controllers
14:09 – Devices using pot inputs
17:23 – Wrap up
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BASIC test code used: github.com/Jeff-Birt/C64_POT_Test_Code
Decade box video: youtu.be/9csw8z_3r18
Credits
Chiptune Thing No. 3 "Victory" by Steven O’Brien soundcloud.com/stevenobrien
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported— CC BY 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/b...
Music provided by Music for Creators youtu.be/ujIMRIJ1JG8
C64 paddle Image: breadbox64.com
Atari CX-85: Evan-Amos, CC BY-SA 3.0, creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0, via Wikimedia Commons
Cardco Cardkey: https://commodore.software/downloads/category/677-cardco-devices
Atari CX-80: atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Atari%20CX80%20Trak-Ball%20controller
Cheetah Annihlitor: c64-wiki.de/wiki/Cheetah_Annihilator
1351 Mouse: c64-wiki.com/wiki/Mouse_1351
Atari driving controller: wikiwand.com/en/Atari_2600_hardware
RCFS 64: lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77569
Mssiah: youtube.com/watch?v=4cjgSaRsw5s
Party Quiz Game: pinterest.com/pin/205547170472613195
Atari CX-21: youtu.be/TJlBSv8Z6Zc
Atari CX-77: atariwiki.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Atari%20CX77%20Touch%20Tablet
Koala Pad: oldcomputr.com/koala-technologies-koalapad-touchtablet
Suncom Animation Station: amigalove.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1513
AtariLab: By Brian Jepson - flickr.com/photos/bjepson/380142842/in/photolist-zAkdW-zAkcW-zAka2-zAkhA-zAkgp-zAkkz-zAkn6-n1txeg-FV8tM, CC BY-SA 2.5, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=45452268
C64 Security Dongles: c64copyprotection.com/dongle-protection