Uploaded February 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Some childhood defenses saved you. And then… they stayed.

In this tender conversation, Kate Bowler and Tara Westover name what it costs to grow up in fear, neglect, and harm—and what it takes to stop living from other people’s perspectives.

This is about reclaiming dignity, telling the truth without flattening it, and learning how to carry your story without letting it run your life.