Uploaded March 2024 | Updated September 2026, 2 days ago
Quick Bonus Round with this fight. I specifically showed the difficulty at the start to show that it is indeed Hard Mode.
Crunched a bit of numbers to see if this is possible on Hard Mode.@Doos has requested for me to look into the possibility of being able to do this on at least hard mode. They have suggested using a Break spell so that I can damage her using magic while she has Pixie equipped. And luckily, it is more than possible to beat her with this method. But with DLC personas in this difficulty, sadly.
Too bad this is impossible on Merciless. No matter what, my damage output could not go past 7K damage or so in that difficulty. It might be possible if physical break spells exists. But sadly, it does not. As for Hard Mode, I can't get past 10K damage without using Oracle Charge/Concentrate. So I guess this is the next best thing for this difficulty.
This time, Magic Mastery and Ice Driver's fully required. So not exactly the easiest thing to try out. But I must say, it is fully replicable at least. In theory, doing this using Zorro would actually be more ideal due to her having Vulnerability to wind twice in the 3rd phase. But Goemon does do a quick kill of the first phase without any Theurgia usage. Perhaps it's a good idea to have both. Also, I crunched the numbers for normal mode and it shows that it should be possible to beat the fight without the Protagonist's Theurgia and DLC there. Now that is more replicable for people without the DLC on hand.
Something I did not specifically looked into for Normal Mode is utilizing Akasha Arts to deal the damage to get her below 10K HP. If this deals enough damage, it is likely that no Theurgia in general would be possible. I actually think it should be possible but will require either a magic P5 initial persona or Johanna so it won't be without DLC. And as such, I will not be looking into this further.
There is a reason why I opted to use items to stall out the fight. This is to keep my SP filled up so that Oracle will have a smaller chance to give a Soma effect to me. Another thing to optimize this is to give the persona attacking Enduring Soul instead of Endure. So that an HP heal is eliminated from Oracle's effects as well. I do not have a card for that since it's a 1/30 save (Those cards are locked behind 1/31 specifically). So I only used Endure here.
Also, for the first phase. In case Goemon does not do above 7K damage, simply concentrate and use Thunder Reign. That is actually faster and will skip 2nd phase entirely. Lucifer with Enduring Soul here was merely a backup strategy. Although this is not exactly doable if you have Goemon with Enduring Soul. So keep that in mind.
Quick Bonus Round with this fight. I specifically showed the difficulty at the start to show that it is indeed Hard Mode.
Crunched a bit of numbers to see if this is possible on Hard Mode.@Doos has requested for me to look into the possibility of being able to do this on at least hard mode. They have suggested using a Break spell so that I can damage her using magic while she has Pixie equipped. And luckily, it is more than possible to beat her with this method. But with DLC personas in this difficulty, sadly.
Too bad this is impossible on Merciless. No matter what, my damage output could not go past 7K damage or so in that difficulty. It might be possible if physical break spells exists. But sadly, it does not. As for Hard Mode, I can't get past 10K damage without using Oracle Charge/Concentrate. So I guess this is the next best thing for this difficulty.
This time, Magic Mastery and Ice Driver's fully required. So not exactly the easiest thing to try out. But I must say, it is fully replicable at least. In theory, doing this using Zorro would actually be more ideal due to her having Vulnerability to wind twice in the 3rd phase. But Goemon does do a quick kill of the first phase without any Theurgia usage. Perhaps it's a good idea to have both. Also, I crunched the numbers for normal mode and it shows that it should be possible to beat the fight without the Protagonist's Theurgia and DLC there. Now that is more replicable for people without the DLC on hand.
Something I did not specifically looked into for Normal Mode is utilizing Akasha Arts to deal the damage to get her below 10K HP. If this deals enough damage, it is likely that no Theurgia in general would be possible. I actually think it should be possible but will require either a magic P5 initial persona or Johanna so it won't be without DLC. And as such, I will not be looking into this further.
There is a reason why I opted to use items to stall out the fight. This is to keep my SP filled up so that Oracle will have a smaller chance to give a Soma effect to me. Another thing to optimize this is to give the persona attacking Enduring Soul instead of Endure. So that an HP heal is eliminated from Oracle's effects as well. I do not have a card for that since it's a 1/30 save (Those cards are locked behind 1/31 specifically). So I only used Endure here.
Also, for the first phase. In case Goemon does not do above 7K damage, simply concentrate and use Thunder Reign. That is actually faster and will skip 2nd phase entirely. Lucifer with Enduring Soul here was merely a backup strategy. Although this is not exactly doable if you have Goemon with Enduring Soul. So keep that in mind.
