Uploaded April 2025 | Updated September 2026, 4 days ago
Welcome to Flagstaff Bound, a special series from the Distance to Empty Podcast, hosted by 3-time Cocodona finisher Kevin Goldberg and 1-time Cocodona finisher Peter Noyes. This series explores the journeys, training, and motivations of runners gearing up for the 2025 Cocodona 250, offering a deep dive into the world of endurance trail running.
In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, we sit down with Courtney Dauwalter, widely regarded as the greatest ultrarunner of all time, as she prepares to take on a new kind of challenge: the Cocodona 250.
But for Courtney, it’s not about the start list—it’s about curiosity, personal exploration, and revisiting the ever-expanding pain cave, which she now describes as a place of “opportunity and celebration.” From the early miles through the desert to the final stretch up Mt. Elden, she shares how she’s mentally preparing to embrace the unknown, wave to the hallucinations, and see what happens when she just keeps going.
With a legendary resume already in hand, Courtney isn’t chasing the win—she’s chasing the experience. And in true Courtney fashion, there’s humor, joy, and a few sanity checks along the way.
Catch new episodes right here on the Aravaipa Running YouTube channel, or listen to the Distance to Empty Podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
📍 Subscribe for more: @aravaiparunning
🎧 Listen on your favorite podcast app: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/distance-to-empty/id1722571117
🎥 Subscribe to Mountain Outpost for the live broadcast: @mountainoutpost
🌍 More information on Cocodona 250: cocodona.com
Follow Courtney on Instagram: instagram.com/courtneydauwalter
#Cocodona250 #FlagstaffBound #DistanceToEmpty #TrailRunning #UltraRunning #EnduranceForAll
Aravaipa Running is committed to the development of a vibrant community centered around being active in the outdoors.
We feel most alive on a trail, experiencing the solitude and restorative power of nature.
From our course markings, pre-race email, chip timing, convenient packet pickups to unique awards we want to make your event experience flawlessly smooth and something you can count on.
From music to wood fired pizza, beer gardens, meeting new friends, beautiful trails to stunning sunrises and star filled nights, having fun is easy.
Come explore with us.
More Info Below:
Sign up for next year's event aravaiparunning.com/races
Get Live Updates live.aravaiparunning.com
Follow us on Social
Instagram instagram.com/aravaiparunning
Facebook facebook.com/aravaiparunning
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Welcome to Flagstaff Bound, a special series from the Distance to Empty Podcast, hosted by 3-time Cocodona finisher Kevin Goldberg and 1-time Cocodona finisher Peter Noyes. This series explores the journeys, training, and motivations of runners gearing up for the 2025 Cocodona 250, offering a deep dive into the world of endurance trail running.
In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, we sit down with Courtney Dauwalter, widely regarded as the greatest ultrarunner of all time, as she prepares to take on a new kind of challenge: the Cocodona 250.
But for Courtney, it’s not about the start list—it’s about curiosity, personal exploration, and revisiting the ever-expanding pain cave, which she now describes as a place of “opportunity and celebration.” From the early miles through the desert to the final stretch up Mt. Elden, she shares how she’s mentally preparing to embrace the unknown, wave to the hallucinations, and see what happens when she just keeps going.
With a legendary resume already in hand, Courtney isn’t chasing the win—she’s chasing the experience. And in true Courtney fashion, there’s humor, joy, and a few sanity checks along the way.
Catch new episodes right here on the Aravaipa Running YouTube channel, or listen to the Distance to Empty Podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
📍 Subscribe for more: @aravaiparunning
🎧 Listen on your favorite podcast app: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/distance-to-empty/id1722571117
🎥 Subscribe to Mountain Outpost for the live broadcast: @mountainoutpost
🌍 More information on Cocodona 250: cocodona.com
Follow Courtney on Instagram: instagram.com/courtneydauwalter
#Cocodona250 #FlagstaffBound #DistanceToEmpty #TrailRunning #UltraRunning #EnduranceForAll
Aravaipa Running is committed to the development of a vibrant community centered around being active in the outdoors.
We feel most alive on a trail, experiencing the solitude and restorative power of nature.
From our course markings, pre-race email, chip timing, convenient packet pickups to unique awards we want to make your event experience flawlessly smooth and something you can count on.
From music to wood fired pizza, beer gardens, meeting new friends, beautiful trails to stunning sunrises and star filled nights, having fun is easy.
Come explore with us.
More Info Below:
Sign up for next year's event aravaiparunning.com/races
Get Live Updates live.aravaiparunning.com
Follow us on Social
Instagram instagram.com/aravaiparunning
Facebook facebook.com/aravaiparunning
Twitter twitter.com/AravaipaRunning
Follow Aravaipa Rides for Arizona's best Mountain Bike events instagram.com/aravaiparides
Subscribe to Run Steep Get High youtube.com/user/runsteepgethigh
