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#participatory #sensemaking #complexityfatigue #thirdentity #third #4E
show notes: lovephilosophy.substack.com/p/complexity-fatigue-and-the-3rd-entity
Rebecca Todd, Shay Welch, Penijean Gracefire and Andrea Hiott explore intricate themes of participatory sensemaking, the concept of the 'third entity,' and the impact of trauma and love on interpersonal relationships. The discussion delves into how the body acts as a data-gathering device, how sensory inputs shape our understanding of the world, and the importance of mutual sense-making in a highly complex and often overwhelming environment. Each speaker shares their unique perspectives and experiences, from cognitive neuroscience to ethical interactions, ultimately highlighting the significance of staying connected both with others and oneself. This conversation is intellectually stimulating and emotionally enriching, drawing on neuroscience, philosophy, and mental health to offer fresh insights into navigating the complexities of human interaction.
00:00 Introduction to the Body as a Data Gathering Device
00:57 The Futility of Communication and Social Media
02:35 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
02:52 Participatory Sense Making and Social Cognition
04:46 Meet the Three: Beck Todd, Shay Welch, and Penijean Gracefire
05:46 Rebecca Todd: Cognitive Neuroscience and Life Experience
08:13 Penijean Gracefire: Neurotechnology and Human Function
12:21 Shay Welch: Philosophy, Public Art, and Participatory Sensemaking
15:50 Exploring the Concept of the Body
23:09 The Role of EEG in Understanding the Brain
52:36 The Impact of Trauma on Sensemaking
53:25 Introduction to Anchors and Interactions
54:14 Effortful Sense Making Shaped by Love
55:16 Individual Differences in Sensory Systems
56:24 Neuromodulation and Sense Making
59:24 Visualization and Communication Challenges
01:03:07 Complexity Fatigue and Bandwidth
01:14:11 Neuromodulation Device Experiment
01:20:35 Participatory Sense Making with the More-than-Human World
01:29:34 Challenges of Virtual Interaction
01:36:48 The Futility and Hope of Communication
Participatory Sense-making is a term coined by Hanne De Jaegher & Ezequiel Di Paolo, and sense-making as it is used here come from Evan Thompson and Di Paolo. Both these philosophers will be featured in upcoming episodes. #waymaking
Steve Paxton, originator of the practice of contact improvisation, himself: “The reason it’s called contact improvisation is because there is a third entity that arises in the state – it is the state of agreement between the two of you that neither one is leading. It doesn’t become leaderless, the two of you are leading.” Source: danspaceproject.org/2014/04/22/steve-paxton-a-brief-chronology
PSM Paper: philpapers.org/rec/DEJPS
A Multiplicity of Worlds: beckettodd.substack.com/p/a-multiplicity-of-worlds
What is Participatory Sense-making and Why Should We Care?
beckettodd.substack.com/p/what-is-participatory-sensemaking
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#becktodd #shaywelch #penijeangracefire #andreahiott #loveandphilosophy
Andrea Hiott: andreahiott.com
Rebecca Todd: psych.ubc.ca/profile/rebecca-todd
Shay Welch: https://www.spelman.edu/staff/profiles/shay-welch.html
Penijean Gracefire: penijean.com
Hanne de Jaegher: philpapers.org/s/Hanne%20De%20Jaegher
Evan Thompson: philosophy.ubc.ca/profile/evan-thompson
Ezequiel Di Paolo: philpapers.org/s/Ezequiel%20Di%20Paolo
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The ideas discussed may challenge your current beliefs and worldview. If you experience emotional distress or confusion while watching, please pause and consider speaking with a qualified mental health professional.
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#participatory #sensemaking #complexityfatigue #thirdentity #third #4E
show notes: lovephilosophy.substack.com/p/complexity-fatigue-and-the-3rd-entity
Rebecca Todd, Shay Welch, Penijean Gracefire and Andrea Hiott explore intricate themes of participatory sensemaking, the concept of the 'third entity,' and the impact of trauma and love on interpersonal relationships. The discussion delves into how the body acts as a data-gathering device, how sensory inputs shape our understanding of the world, and the importance of mutual sense-making in a highly complex and often overwhelming environment. Each speaker shares their unique perspectives and experiences, from cognitive neuroscience to ethical interactions, ultimately highlighting the significance of staying connected both with others and oneself. This conversation is intellectually stimulating and emotionally enriching, drawing on neuroscience, philosophy, and mental health to offer fresh insights into navigating the complexities of human interaction.
00:00 Introduction to the Body as a Data Gathering Device
00:57 The Futility of Communication and Social Media
02:35 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
02:52 Participatory Sense Making and Social Cognition
04:46 Meet the Three: Beck Todd, Shay Welch, and Penijean Gracefire
05:46 Rebecca Todd: Cognitive Neuroscience and Life Experience
08:13 Penijean Gracefire: Neurotechnology and Human Function
12:21 Shay Welch: Philosophy, Public Art, and Participatory Sensemaking
15:50 Exploring the Concept of the Body
23:09 The Role of EEG in Understanding the Brain
52:36 The Impact of Trauma on Sensemaking
53:25 Introduction to Anchors and Interactions
54:14 Effortful Sense Making Shaped by Love
55:16 Individual Differences in Sensory Systems
56:24 Neuromodulation and Sense Making
59:24 Visualization and Communication Challenges
01:03:07 Complexity Fatigue and Bandwidth
01:14:11 Neuromodulation Device Experiment
01:20:35 Participatory Sense Making with the More-than-Human World
01:29:34 Challenges of Virtual Interaction
01:36:48 The Futility and Hope of Communication
Participatory Sense-making is a term coined by Hanne De Jaegher & Ezequiel Di Paolo, and sense-making as it is used here come from Evan Thompson and Di Paolo. Both these philosophers will be featured in upcoming episodes. #waymaking
Steve Paxton, originator of the practice of contact improvisation, himself: “The reason it’s called contact improvisation is because there is a third entity that arises in the state – it is the state of agreement between the two of you that neither one is leading. It doesn’t become leaderless, the two of you are leading.” Source: danspaceproject.org/2014/04/22/steve-paxton-a-brief-chronology
PSM Paper: philpapers.org/rec/DEJPS
A Multiplicity of Worlds: beckettodd.substack.com/p/a-multiplicity-of-worlds
What is Participatory Sense-making and Why Should We Care?
beckettodd.substack.com/p/what-is-participatory-sensemaking
Audio podcast in your favorite place: pod.link/YZLzbj
Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/lovephilosophy.substack.com
Facebook: facebook.com/waymaking
Instagram: instagram.com/waymaking23
Substack: lovephilosophy.substack.com
LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/andrea-at-ecological-orientation
#becktodd #shaywelch #penijeangracefire #andreahiott #loveandphilosophy
Andrea Hiott: andreahiott.com
Rebecca Todd: psych.ubc.ca/profile/rebecca-todd
Shay Welch: https://www.spelman.edu/staff/profiles/shay-welch.html
Penijean Gracefire: penijean.com
Hanne de Jaegher: philpapers.org/s/Hanne%20De%20Jaegher
Evan Thompson: philosophy.ubc.ca/profile/evan-thompson
Ezequiel Di Paolo: philpapers.org/s/Ezequiel%20Di%20Paolo
DISCLAIMER
Educational Content Only
This video is for philosophical exploration and educational purposes. It is not a substitute for professional medical, psychological, or therapeutic advice.
Important Notice
The ideas discussed may challenge your current beliefs and worldview. If you experience emotional distress or confusion while watching, please pause and consider speaking with a qualified mental health professional.
No Affiliation
Views expressed are personal opinions and do not represent any institution, organization, or employer.
Fair Use
Any referenced material is used under fair use principles for educational discussion and commentary.
Personal Responsibility
This content does not prescribe any particular way of living. You are responsible for how you interpret and apply these ideas to your own life. The creators assume no liability for any outcomes resulting from your use of this material.
Your Wellbeing Matters
If philosophical inquiry ever feels overwhelming, please prioritize your mental health and seek appropriate support.
