Uploaded September 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
What does the perfect e-commerce platform look like in an AI era?
That’s the question Shopify’s Chief Design Officer Carl Rivera has set out to answer so this week’s episode is all about Shopify’s big bet on design and craft as the ultimate differentiator.
We go deep into:
- What happens when AI makes everyone a 7/10 designer
- What most design teams get wrong when casting vision
- How design can lead the creation of truly native AI experiences
- Why every designer at Shopify is learning to ship to production
- Carl’s thesis for why designers are severely undervalued in the market
- Why Shopify acquired Molly Studio and what it means for how the org works
- + a *lot* more
https://www.molly.studio/ - design studio acquired by Shopify
Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:05 How Shopify is elevating design
8:11 Why Shopify acquired Molly studio
13:51 How Carl thinks about design rituals
16:10 Designing north stars vs. focusing on scope
23:23 How design has responded to the CEO's AI memo
28:50 Why it's worth investing in AI prototypes
32:18 Envisioning the future of how design teams work
40:59 What qualities Carl looks for in designers
48:47 Why Carl loves agency designers
Dive is where the best designers never stop learning 🤿
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🐦 twitter.com/joindiveclub
Now you can join advanced courses taught by the top designers to help you take a huge leap forward in your career 💪
What does the perfect e-commerce platform look like in an AI era?
That’s the question Shopify’s Chief Design Officer Carl Rivera has set out to answer so this week’s episode is all about Shopify’s big bet on design and craft as the ultimate differentiator.
We go deep into:
- What happens when AI makes everyone a 7/10 designer
- What most design teams get wrong when casting vision
- How design can lead the creation of truly native AI experiences
- Why every designer at Shopify is learning to ship to production
- Carl’s thesis for why designers are severely undervalued in the market
- Why Shopify acquired Molly Studio and what it means for how the org works
- + a *lot* more
https://www.molly.studio/ - design studio acquired by Shopify
Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:05 How Shopify is elevating design
8:11 Why Shopify acquired Molly studio
13:51 How Carl thinks about design rituals
16:10 Designing north stars vs. focusing on scope
23:23 How design has responded to the CEO's AI memo
28:50 Why it's worth investing in AI prototypes
32:18 Envisioning the future of how design teams work
40:59 What qualities Carl looks for in designers
48:47 Why Carl loves agency designers
Dive is where the best designers never stop learning 🤿
🌐 dive.club
🐦 twitter.com/joindiveclub
Now you can join advanced courses taught by the top designers to help you take a huge leap forward in your career 💪






 is in the S-tier of design and I’ve studied his visual techniques for many years.
Finally, after over a 12 months of pestering he agreed to share his secrets in a interview 🙌
We go deep into:
- Mastering the finer details of craft
- Putting AI at the heart of the new Fey 2.0
- Where Thiago draws inspiration outside of UI
- What it looks like to have a “heightened awareness”
- How Thiago evolved the Fey aesthetic from 1.0 to 2.0
- Specific visual techniques for making your UI more lifelike
- + a *lot* more
- Caravaggio (https://www.caravaggio.org/) is the painter who Thiago calls the “master of light”
- The Local Project (https://www.youtube.com/c/thelocalproject) interior design channel on YouTube
Dive is where the best designers never stop learning 🤿
🌐 dive.club
🐦 twitter.com/joindiveclub
Now you can join advanced courses taught by the top designers to help you take a huge leap forward in your career 💪
Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:08 The backstory of Fey
6:04 The strategy behind their 2.0 release
9:01 Initial AI design explorations
10:17 How Thiago knows when a design is ready
14:13 Evolving the Fey aesthetic
18:39 When design is art
27:24 When to break the rules of visual design
45:36 Taste through heightened awarenesss
48:53 Standing out in an AI world Thiago Costa - Cultivating taste as a designer](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bWffMLkBQLU/mqdefault.jpg)



