Uploaded May 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
There's an entire industry built on the idea that if you hate yourself enough, you'll eventually change. And yet everything we know about shame tells us the opposite is true. So why do we keep going back there? And more importantly, what does it actually take to break free?
This week on Live Well Be Well, I'm sitting down with Shahroo Izadi, Behavioural Change Specialist, NHS clinical trainer, and bestselling author of The Kindness Method and The Last Diet. Shahroo spent years working in addiction recovery, and what she found there transformed not only her professional understanding of change, but her own relationship with food, her body, and herself. Her approach is disarmingly simple and quietly radical: the only habit you truly need to learn is how to change habits.
We go deep into why so many of us associate change with self-loathing, why willpower alone will always fail us, and how the tools used in addiction recovery hold the blueprint for any meaningful behaviour change. Shahroo also shares her own story with complete honesty, including binge eating, a gastric band, eight stone lost, and what finally made the difference. This is one of those conversations that reframes everything.
Here's what we dive into:
- How shame becomes the enemy of lasting habit change.
- Why the only habit worth learning is how to change habits.
- What addiction recovery gets right that mainstream wellness misses.
- How to interrupt the shame spiral after a setback.
- Why body neutrality is a more honest goal than body positivity.
- What GLP-1s are really revealing about our relationship with food.
- How writing your future self's story builds more momentum than goal-setting.
- Why your worst days, not your best, are the most powerful resilience tool.
Love,
Sarah Ann π
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This episode is sponsored by:
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Rested is available now and Grounded lands later this month.
π Get 20% off with code SARAH20 at DIOME.CO
NOWATCH: The compassionate health tracker
Connecting body and mind with unique stress recovery insights so you can live fully today
π 15% off with code LWBW15 at nowatch.com
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The Great British Veg Out
How to support your gut, energy, and hormones by eating more β not less.
π sarahmacklin.substack.com/p/the-great-british-veg-out
Reset Your Health
If your body feels off after stress, travel, or burnout β this is where to start.
π sarahmacklin.substack.com/s/reset-your-health-in-30-days
π Practical beats perfect.
Hereβs a free 5-recipe PDF I use to support energy and stress during busy weeks.
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Dr. Shefali's Approach to Shadow Self: From External Validation to Inner Alignment
youtu.be/46-BbuvGHuY
Conquer Self-sabotage And Shame With Africa Brooke: Your Path To Personal Freedom!
youtu.be/iNzVPBEnlQw
How to Heal Shame & Find Your True Self with IFS Therapy | Sarah Jones
youtu.be/njCaJZ4t6Q8
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Highlights
00:00:00 Intro
00:07:00 Shahroo's Story: Stammers, Weight, and Self-Help at Age 10
00:10:34 Working in Addiction and Recognising Her Own Cycle
00:15:27 "Better Than Well": What Addiction Recovery Gets Right
00:23:24 Body Positivity, Body Neutrality, and the Thin Ideal
00:31:38 The Gastric Band: What Happens When You Don't Change the Behaviour
00:34:18 Social Judgment and the Ozempic Study
00:43:33 How to Stop the Swing Between Extremes
00:46:21 The Second Choice: Interrupting the Shame Spiral
00:53:23 Matt Haig on Using Your Worst Days as a Reference Bank
00:58:44 Writing Letters to Your Future Self
01:06:22 How Shahroo Sees Herself Differently Five Years On
01:18:47 Hatefulness Doesn't Create Change
01:20:07 Self-Compassion vs. Self-Love: What We're Actually Asking For
01:26:17 What "Live Well, Be Well" Means to Shahroo
***
Love what youβre hearing?
My small ask is to please rate and review Live Well Be Well. This helps the show expand and allows me to keep producing these with the best quality guests. It means a huge amount to me, so thank you.
There's an entire industry built on the idea that if you hate yourself enough, you'll eventually change. And yet everything we know about shame tells us the opposite is true. So why do we keep going back there? And more importantly, what does it actually take to break free?
This week on Live Well Be Well, I'm sitting down with Shahroo Izadi, Behavioural Change Specialist, NHS clinical trainer, and bestselling author of The Kindness Method and The Last Diet. Shahroo spent years working in addiction recovery, and what she found there transformed not only her professional understanding of change, but her own relationship with food, her body, and herself. Her approach is disarmingly simple and quietly radical: the only habit you truly need to learn is how to change habits.
We go deep into why so many of us associate change with self-loathing, why willpower alone will always fail us, and how the tools used in addiction recovery hold the blueprint for any meaningful behaviour change. Shahroo also shares her own story with complete honesty, including binge eating, a gastric band, eight stone lost, and what finally made the difference. This is one of those conversations that reframes everything.
Here's what we dive into:
- How shame becomes the enemy of lasting habit change.
- Why the only habit worth learning is how to change habits.
- What addiction recovery gets right that mainstream wellness misses.
- How to interrupt the shame spiral after a setback.
- Why body neutrality is a more honest goal than body positivity.
- What GLP-1s are really revealing about our relationship with food.
- How writing your future self's story builds more momentum than goal-setting.
- Why your worst days, not your best, are the most powerful resilience tool.
Love,
Sarah Ann π
***
This episode is sponsored by:
DIOME: Rest deeper. Stay grounded.
Rested is available now and Grounded lands later this month.
π Get 20% off with code SARAH20 at DIOME.CO
NOWATCH: The compassionate health tracker
Connecting body and mind with unique stress recovery insights so you can live fully today
π 15% off with code LWBW15 at nowatch.com
***
The Great British Veg Out
How to support your gut, energy, and hormones by eating more β not less.
π sarahmacklin.substack.com/p/the-great-british-veg-out
Reset Your Health
If your body feels off after stress, travel, or burnout β this is where to start.
π sarahmacklin.substack.com/s/reset-your-health-in-30-days
π Practical beats perfect.
Hereβs a free 5-recipe PDF I use to support energy and stress during busy weeks.
open.substack.com/pub/sarahmacklin/p/download-your-free-5-recipes-to-relieve
π If this resonates, you can join the thousands who read
The Compassionate Cure each week. sarahmacklin.substack.com
***
Letβs be friends!
π· Instagram: instagram.com/sarahannmacklin
πΉ Subscribe:youtube.com/@livewellbewellsarah
π¦ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahAnnMacklin
π± TikTok: tiktok.com/@livewellbewellpodcast
π Newsletter: sarahmacklin.substack.com
***
If You Enjoyed This Episode, You Might Also Like:
Dr. Shefali's Approach to Shadow Self: From External Validation to Inner Alignment
youtu.be/46-BbuvGHuY
Conquer Self-sabotage And Shame With Africa Brooke: Your Path To Personal Freedom!
youtu.be/iNzVPBEnlQw
How to Heal Shame & Find Your True Self with IFS Therapy | Sarah Jones
youtu.be/njCaJZ4t6Q8
***
Sign up to Sarahβs Compassionate Cure newsletter:
Science Simplified, Health Humanised.
Join thousands in exploring actionable insights that prioritise compassion, clarity, and real-life impact.
sarahmacklin.substack.com
***
Highlights
00:00:00 Intro
00:07:00 Shahroo's Story: Stammers, Weight, and Self-Help at Age 10
00:10:34 Working in Addiction and Recognising Her Own Cycle
00:15:27 "Better Than Well": What Addiction Recovery Gets Right
00:23:24 Body Positivity, Body Neutrality, and the Thin Ideal
00:31:38 The Gastric Band: What Happens When You Don't Change the Behaviour
00:34:18 Social Judgment and the Ozempic Study
00:43:33 How to Stop the Swing Between Extremes
00:46:21 The Second Choice: Interrupting the Shame Spiral
00:53:23 Matt Haig on Using Your Worst Days as a Reference Bank
00:58:44 Writing Letters to Your Future Self
01:06:22 How Shahroo Sees Herself Differently Five Years On
01:18:47 Hatefulness Doesn't Create Change
01:20:07 Self-Compassion vs. Self-Love: What We're Actually Asking For
01:26:17 What "Live Well, Be Well" Means to Shahroo
***
Love what youβre hearing?
My small ask is to please rate and review Live Well Be Well. This helps the show expand and allows me to keep producing these with the best quality guests. It means a huge amount to me, so thank you.




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This episode is sponsored by:
NOWATCH: The compassionate health tracker
Connecting body and mind with unique stress recovery insights so you can live fully today
15% off with code LWBW15 at https://nowatch.com/
DIOME: Rest deeper. Stay grounded.
Rested is available now and Grounded lands later this month.
π Get 20% off with code SARAH20 at DIOME.CO
***
The Great British Veg Out
How to support your gut, energy, and hormones by eating more β not less.
π https://sarahmacklin.substack.com/p/the-great-british-veg-out
Reset Your Health
If your body feels off after stress, travel, or burnout β this is where to start.
π https://sarahmacklin.substack.com/s/reset-your-health-in-30-days
π Practical beats perfect.
Hereβs a free 5-recipe PDF I use to support energy and stress during busy weeks.
https://sarahannmacklin.com/5_free_recipes
π If this resonates, you can join the thousands who read
The Compassionate Cure each week.
https://sarahmacklin.substack.com/
***
Letβs be friends!
π· Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarahannmacklin/
πΉ Subscribe: http://www.youtube.com/@livewellbewellsarah
π¦ Twitter: https://x.com/SarahAnnMacklin
π± TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@livewellbewellpodcast
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