potholer54 | Are electric cars really green? An investigation of Bjorn Lomborg's claims. @potholer54 | Uploaded November 2018 | Updated October 2024, 12 hours ago.
CORRECTIONS:
1) 11:30 -- Estonia's electricity is not mostly coal-powered, it is mostly oil-shale powered. They both produce large amounts of CO2, so the point is the same. The result is that electric cars powered by the Estonian grid are much less green than in France.
2) The photo of the 'lithium mine' is a diamond mine, according to National Geographic. However, a real lithium mine in Western Australia looks almost identical: wattelectricalnews.com/NEWS/Lithium-Mining-Delivers-BIG-for-WA,-Increased-Spodumene-Production/46120
SOURCES ARE BELOW
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SOURCES:
0:00 -- louderwithcrowder.com/watch-electric-cars-are-stupid-theyre-not-green-after-all
1:17 -- youtube.com/watch?v=17xh_VRrnMU&t=138s
2:29 -- shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Shades-of-Green-Full-Report.pdf
3:44 – “Cleaner cars from cradle to grave” – Union of Concerned Scientists, Nov 2015
3:49 – afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/electric_emissions.php
4:45 – “Comparative environmental life cycle assessment of conventional and electric vehicles” – Hawkins et al., Journal of Industrial Ecology, 2013.
7:20 -- “Cleaner cars from cradle to grave” – Union of Concerned Scientists, Nov 2015
7:50 -- “Comparative environmental life cycle assessment of conventional and electric vehicles” – Hawkins et al., Journal of Industrial Ecology, 2013.
7:59 – “America's Diesel Car Market Gets Even Smaller” bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-10/with-mercedes-exit-u-s-diesel-car-market-shrinks-even-more
8:02 -- scientificamerican.com/article/why-european-diesel-cars
8:06 – Fuel economy figures come from the Hawkins study: “68.5 milliliter/kilometer (mL/km) for the gasoline ICEV, and 53.5 mL/km for the diesel ICEV.” This translates to 6.85 and 5.35 liters per kilometer respectively. According to pacificwebsites.com/Convert_Miles_per_Gallon_to_Liters_per_100_Kilometers.htm
this is equivalent to 42 mpg for the gasoline car and 53 mpg for the diesel.
8:20 --fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=noform&path=1&year1=2018&year2=2019&mclass=Small+Cars&srchtyp=newMarket&sortBy=Make&rowLimit=200&tabView=0&pageno=1
8:59 -- usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/02/18/electric-car-benefits-air-myths-pollution-health-column/23641729
9:08 -- fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?zipCode=10011&year=2014&vehicleId=34775&action=bt3
9:17 – “Cleaner Cars from Cradle to Grave” -- Union of Concerned Scientists, Nov 2015
9:47 – Ibid.
10:15 - computerworld.com/article/2604352/if-tesla-s-gigafactory-can-run-on-100-renewable-energy-why-can-t-others.html
10:29 –“Cleaner Cars from Cradle to Grave” -- Union of Concerned Scientists, Nov 2015
10:44 -- nationalgeographic.com/environment/great-energy-challenge/2012/how-to-compare-the-cost-of-electric-and-gas-cars
10:53 -- : europeanclimate.org/levehicule-electrique-dans-latransition-
ecologique-enfrance
10:55 -- europeanclimate.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Electric_vehicles_ENG_AW_WEB.pdf
11:19 -- eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=18071
12:46 – “Life cycle air quality impacts of conventional and alternative light-duty transportation in the United States” Tessum et al 2014
14:57 -- eia.gov/energyexplained/index.php?page=electricity_in_the_united_states text
14:58 -- “Cleaner cars from cradle to grave” – Union of Concerned Scientists, Nov 2015
15:04 – Ibid.
15:54 -- Annual Energy Outlook 2015 – EIA
16:12 -- ucsusa.org/clean-energy/coal-and-other-fossil-fuels/environmental-impacts-of-natural-gas#.W-vfhXozbBI
16:16 -- eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=73&t=11
16:29 -- Annual Energy Outlook 2015 – EIA
17:23 -- Annual Energy Outlook 2018 – EIA
19:17 -- theguardian.com/environment/2017/dec/01/electric-cars-already-cheaper-to-own-and-run-than-petrol-or-diesel-study
19:24 --reader.elsevier.com/reader/sd/pii/S030626191731526X?token=65377D86D6C3FA7CD89421105211D278428A464B337DA2ECAFD31074B424AA34BEF95131B4F4C0EC6F6DFDF20A09E0E3
CORRECTIONS:
1) 11:30 -- Estonia's electricity is not mostly coal-powered, it is mostly oil-shale powered. They both produce large amounts of CO2, so the point is the same. The result is that electric cars powered by the Estonian grid are much less green than in France.
2) The photo of the 'lithium mine' is a diamond mine, according to National Geographic. However, a real lithium mine in Western Australia looks almost identical: wattelectricalnews.com/NEWS/Lithium-Mining-Delivers-BIG-for-WA,-Increased-Spodumene-Production/46120
SOURCES ARE BELOW
If you would like to support this channel financially, I don't need the money. I make these videos if people donate to a charity I strongly endorse called Health in Harmony. It’s building clinics in Borneo that provide affordable health care to villages in return for a pledge not to cut down trees. The pledges are monitored, and the result is a dramatic decrease in deforestation rates and an increase in the health of the local population.
You can make a donation here…
healthinharmony.org/donate
See psmag.com/social-justice/save-the-trees-well-save-your-life-46121 for an explanation of their work for details.
SOURCES:
0:00 -- louderwithcrowder.com/watch-electric-cars-are-stupid-theyre-not-green-after-all
1:17 -- youtube.com/watch?v=17xh_VRrnMU&t=138s
2:29 -- shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Shades-of-Green-Full-Report.pdf
3:44 – “Cleaner cars from cradle to grave” – Union of Concerned Scientists, Nov 2015
3:49 – afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/electric_emissions.php
4:45 – “Comparative environmental life cycle assessment of conventional and electric vehicles” – Hawkins et al., Journal of Industrial Ecology, 2013.
7:20 -- “Cleaner cars from cradle to grave” – Union of Concerned Scientists, Nov 2015
7:50 -- “Comparative environmental life cycle assessment of conventional and electric vehicles” – Hawkins et al., Journal of Industrial Ecology, 2013.
7:59 – “America's Diesel Car Market Gets Even Smaller” bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-10/with-mercedes-exit-u-s-diesel-car-market-shrinks-even-more
8:02 -- scientificamerican.com/article/why-european-diesel-cars
8:06 – Fuel economy figures come from the Hawkins study: “68.5 milliliter/kilometer (mL/km) for the gasoline ICEV, and 53.5 mL/km for the diesel ICEV.” This translates to 6.85 and 5.35 liters per kilometer respectively. According to pacificwebsites.com/Convert_Miles_per_Gallon_to_Liters_per_100_Kilometers.htm
this is equivalent to 42 mpg for the gasoline car and 53 mpg for the diesel.
8:20 --fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=noform&path=1&year1=2018&year2=2019&mclass=Small+Cars&srchtyp=newMarket&sortBy=Make&rowLimit=200&tabView=0&pageno=1
8:59 -- usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/02/18/electric-car-benefits-air-myths-pollution-health-column/23641729
9:08 -- fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?zipCode=10011&year=2014&vehicleId=34775&action=bt3
9:17 – “Cleaner Cars from Cradle to Grave” -- Union of Concerned Scientists, Nov 2015
9:47 – Ibid.
10:15 - computerworld.com/article/2604352/if-tesla-s-gigafactory-can-run-on-100-renewable-energy-why-can-t-others.html
10:29 –“Cleaner Cars from Cradle to Grave” -- Union of Concerned Scientists, Nov 2015
10:44 -- nationalgeographic.com/environment/great-energy-challenge/2012/how-to-compare-the-cost-of-electric-and-gas-cars
10:53 -- : europeanclimate.org/levehicule-electrique-dans-latransition-
ecologique-enfrance
10:55 -- europeanclimate.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Electric_vehicles_ENG_AW_WEB.pdf
11:19 -- eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=18071
12:46 – “Life cycle air quality impacts of conventional and alternative light-duty transportation in the United States” Tessum et al 2014
14:57 -- eia.gov/energyexplained/index.php?page=electricity_in_the_united_states text
14:58 -- “Cleaner cars from cradle to grave” – Union of Concerned Scientists, Nov 2015
15:04 – Ibid.
15:54 -- Annual Energy Outlook 2015 – EIA
16:12 -- ucsusa.org/clean-energy/coal-and-other-fossil-fuels/environmental-impacts-of-natural-gas#.W-vfhXozbBI
16:16 -- eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=73&t=11
16:29 -- Annual Energy Outlook 2015 – EIA
17:23 -- Annual Energy Outlook 2018 – EIA
19:17 -- theguardian.com/environment/2017/dec/01/electric-cars-already-cheaper-to-own-and-run-than-petrol-or-diesel-study
19:24 --reader.elsevier.com/reader/sd/pii/S030626191731526X?token=65377D86D6C3FA7CD89421105211D278428A464B337DA2ECAFD31074B424AA34BEF95131B4F4C0EC6F6DFDF20A09E0E3
