Uploaded April 2012 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
Correction: Please note that Shiftplusone80 is NOT a Hovind fan, as described in this video. Please see the annotation at the relevant part of the video.
I posted this a few days ago, but for some reason it didn't register for subscribers. Could be because I uploaded it before I left Australia a month ago, and switched it from 'private' to 'public.' So I'm uploading it from scratch. Sources will follow when I get home.
Correction: Please note that Shiftplusone80 is NOT a Hovind fan, as described in this video. Please see the annotation at the relevant part of the video.
I posted this a few days ago, but for some reason it didn't register for subscribers. Could be because I uploaded it before I left Australia a month ago, and switched it from 'private' to 'public.' So I'm uploading it from scratch. Sources will follow when I get home.
![12 - Doubled CO2 means just 1.64 degrees of warming... or maybe not.
Last week a paper by researchers at NASAs Goddard Institute for Space Studies led to sensational headlines that the Earth will only warm by as much as 1.64 degrees centigrade in a couple of centuries. Sound too good to be true? Of course it does.
Ive put this video together faster than I normally would because the myth has already gone viral. But its so easy to spot the flaws you have to wonder why people who call themselves skeptics arent skeptical enough to check even the most basic facts.
CORRECTION:
Cbrhawk1 points out an error at around 3:15. He writes: [Potholer] applies a subtractive 0.26C to the 4.5C estimate of the IPCC rather than properly applying the feedback to the formula. My response: The paper doesnt show how to apply the formula to other models, which is why I subtracted the 0.26 degC figure directly. However, I agree with Cbrhawk1 that it is not that simple, because higher temperatures would presumably lead to higher evapotranspiration rates. If we apply the figure pro-rata, then warming of 4.5 degrees would be reduced to 3.9 degrees.
I have no argument with that at all; evapotranspiration is a negative feedback, and the paper shows that it is greater than previously estimated. The point of this video is to debunk the absurd conclusion that global temperatures are only set to rise by 1.64 degrees because of evapotranspiration. The focus of the study was not to determine global temps but to quantify the negative feedback effects of evapotranspiration. Since the model started with a low warming figure, it resulted in a low warming figure when evapotranspiration was plugged in. Had the model started with a higher warming figure, it would have resulted in a higher warming figure when evapotranspiration was plugged in.
SOURCES:
Original myth published in:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/08/new_model_doubled_co2_sub_2_degrees_warming/
Greener Climate Prediction Shows Plants Slow Warming
NASA press release
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/cooling-plant-growth.html
Original paper:
Quantifying the negative feedback of vegetation to greenhouse warming: A modeling approach
L. Bounoua et al, Geophysical Research Letters, Dec 2010
Bio of Lewis Page:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/lewis-page
Mauna Loa CO2 growth data:
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/
Contributions to accelerating atmospheric CO2 growth
from economic activity, carbon intensity, and
efficiency of natural sinks
J. Canadell, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 2007
Probabilistic Forecast for 21st Century Climate Based on Uncertainties in Emissions (without Policy) and Climate Parameters
A.P. Sokolov et al, MIT 2009
Myth from the Register repeated:
http://www.openyoureyesnews.com/2010/12/14/new-nasa-model-doubled-co2-means-just-1-64%C2%B0c-warming/
...and again...
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/219487-New-NASA-model-Doubled-CO2-means-just-1-64C-warming
...and again...
http://www.climatedepot.com/a/9045/New-NASA-model-Doubled-CO2-means-just-164degC-warming-Previous-models-failed-to-properly-account-for-an-important-cooling-factor-which-will-come-into-play-as-CO2-levels-rise
...and again...
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/new-nasa-model-doubled-co2-means-just-1-64%C2%B0c-warming/
...and again...
NASA Peer-Reviewed Study Finds Low Sensitivity To CO2 Doubling: The UNs IPCC Global Warming Science Is Imploding
http://www.c3headlines.com/are-leftistsliberal-elites-corrupt-stupid-hypocritical/
...and again...
New NASA model: Doubled CO2 means just 1.64°C warming
http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/home/8241-new-nasa-model-doubled-co2-means-just-164dc-warming
...and again...
NASA Peer-Reviewed Study Finds Low Sensitivity To CO2 Doubling: The UNs IPCC Global Warming Science Is Imploding
http://www.c3headlines.com/2010/12/nasa-peer-reviewed-study-finds-low-sensitivity-to-co2-doubling-the-uns-ipcc-global-warming-science-i.html
...and again...
Greenhouse Gasses Arent Going To Be A Problem For Centuries Say Scientists From NASA
http://rightwingnews.com/2010/12/greenhouse-gasses-arent-going-to-be-a-problem-for-centuries-say-scientists-from-nasa-wait-what/
Recent decline in the global land evapotranspiration trend due to limited moisture supply
M. Jung et al, Nature, October 2010 12 - Doubled CO2 means just 1.64 degrees of warming... or maybe not.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/l3vIWD4tAHc/mqdefault.jpg)









