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How old was Mary when she had Jesus? About 12 to 16 — the marriage age in ancient Israel, and the Bible sets no age of consent at all. An apologist called in demanding one verse that proves it — then brought a proof text of his own, and it turned on him.
In this call-in clip an apologist disputes the claim that Mary was a child, and demands a single example of a child married anywhere in the Bible. We cover the marriageable age in ancient Israel, whether there is an age of consent in the Bible, and what Numbers 31 and Deuteronomy 21 actually say about captive women.
• Where "12 to 16" comes from — the Anchor Bible Dictionary entry on Marriage (OT and ANE) by Victor P. Hamilton, plus the Talmud's three age classifications for girls.
• His counter-case: "God set the age at 20" — which comes from the wilderness census in Numbers 1, a count of fighting men, not a marriage law.
• Numbers 31:17-18 and 31:28 — the 32,000 girls taken after the Midianite war, and what the text says was done with them.
• Deuteronomy 21:10-14 — the captive-woman law, read in full, and the euphemism at the end of it.
• 2 Samuel 13 — the verse HE brought to make his case, and what happened when we read the next three verses.
• Deuteronomy 22 and the "she didn't cry out" test — and why freeze and fawn responses make that test worthless.
• The command to stone a disobedient son, which he insisted is not in the Bible at all.
⏱️ CHAPTERS
00:00 "You have to marry her first"
00:45 How old was Mary when she had Jesus?
01:53 Is there an age of consent in the Bible?
02:24 "God set the age at 20" — the census red herring
03:09 "Blessed are you among women" — his case for an adult Mary
03:41 "Show me an example where a child was married"
04:50 Numbers 31: what happened to the 32,000 girls
06:09 Deuteronomy 21: the captive-woman law, read in full
09:01 He brings his own proof text: 2 Samuel 13
12:13 "I don't know what it means by that honestly"
13:45 "No, you don't — we literally just read that"
14:14 Lot's daughters, and what "condone" actually means
18:47 Deuteronomy 22 and the "she didn't cry out" test
21:17 Freeze, flight, fawn — why "she didn't resist" fails
22:46 "Now you're absolutely lying" — the stoning denial
24:40 "I didn't say that" — and the call ends
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▶️ Christian Caller Says Mary Consented — Watch Matt Adams Crash & Burn — ge.hopp.to/ChristianClaimsMaryConsentedToBePregnant
▶️ THIS Is How Apologists Explain Numbers 31 — youtube.com/watch?v=PAToRNfRSCM
▶️ Mike Winger Thinks God Outlawed Kidnapping In Israel — youtube.com/watch?v=F42cajYv41g
▶️ Christian Apologist Defends Misogyny in the Bible — youtube.com/watch?v=lQ7i6QpOCpc
▶️ Christian Tried to Defend God's Morality — Watch Him CONCEDE Everything — youtube.com/watch?v=Yp_7FB3_Ftg
▶️ Christian Defends Biblical Slavery — Watch It Fall Apart — youtube.com/watch?v=522nxiMKRMg
📚 SOURCES MENTIONED: Anchor Bible Dictionary, "Marriage (OT and ANE)" — Victor P. Hamilton · the Talmud's three age classifications for girls · Numbers 31:17-18, 31:28 · Deuteronomy 21:10-14 · Deuteronomy 22 · 2 Samuel 13 · Genesis 19
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How old was Mary when she had Jesus? About 12 to 16 — the marriage age in ancient Israel, and the Bible sets no age of consent at all. An apologist called in demanding one verse that proves it — then brought a proof text of his own, and it turned on him.
In this call-in clip an apologist disputes the claim that Mary was a child, and demands a single example of a child married anywhere in the Bible. We cover the marriageable age in ancient Israel, whether there is an age of consent in the Bible, and what Numbers 31 and Deuteronomy 21 actually say about captive women.
• Where "12 to 16" comes from — the Anchor Bible Dictionary entry on Marriage (OT and ANE) by Victor P. Hamilton, plus the Talmud's three age classifications for girls.
• His counter-case: "God set the age at 20" — which comes from the wilderness census in Numbers 1, a count of fighting men, not a marriage law.
• Numbers 31:17-18 and 31:28 — the 32,000 girls taken after the Midianite war, and what the text says was done with them.
• Deuteronomy 21:10-14 — the captive-woman law, read in full, and the euphemism at the end of it.
• 2 Samuel 13 — the verse HE brought to make his case, and what happened when we read the next three verses.
• Deuteronomy 22 and the "she didn't cry out" test — and why freeze and fawn responses make that test worthless.
• The command to stone a disobedient son, which he insisted is not in the Bible at all.
⏱️ CHAPTERS
00:00 "You have to marry her first"
00:45 How old was Mary when she had Jesus?
01:53 Is there an age of consent in the Bible?
02:24 "God set the age at 20" — the census red herring
03:09 "Blessed are you among women" — his case for an adult Mary
03:41 "Show me an example where a child was married"
04:50 Numbers 31: what happened to the 32,000 girls
06:09 Deuteronomy 21: the captive-woman law, read in full
09:01 He brings his own proof text: 2 Samuel 13
12:13 "I don't know what it means by that honestly"
13:45 "No, you don't — we literally just read that"
14:14 Lot's daughters, and what "condone" actually means
18:47 Deuteronomy 22 and the "she didn't cry out" test
21:17 Freeze, flight, fawn — why "she didn't resist" fails
22:46 "Now you're absolutely lying" — the stoning denial
24:40 "I didn't say that" — and the call ends
🔗 RELATED — keep going
▶️ Christian Caller Says Mary Consented — Watch Matt Adams Crash & Burn — ge.hopp.to/ChristianClaimsMaryConsentedToBePregnant
▶️ THIS Is How Apologists Explain Numbers 31 — youtube.com/watch?v=PAToRNfRSCM
▶️ Mike Winger Thinks God Outlawed Kidnapping In Israel — youtube.com/watch?v=F42cajYv41g
▶️ Christian Apologist Defends Misogyny in the Bible — youtube.com/watch?v=lQ7i6QpOCpc
▶️ Christian Tried to Defend God's Morality — Watch Him CONCEDE Everything — youtube.com/watch?v=Yp_7FB3_Ftg
▶️ Christian Defends Biblical Slavery — Watch It Fall Apart — youtube.com/watch?v=522nxiMKRMg
📚 SOURCES MENTIONED: Anchor Bible Dictionary, "Marriage (OT and ANE)" — Victor P. Hamilton · the Talmud's three age classifications for girls · Numbers 31:17-18, 31:28 · Deuteronomy 21:10-14 · Deuteronomy 22 · 2 Samuel 13 · Genesis 19
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![Christianity STARTED Slavery—It Didnt End It 🤯
Christianity helped end slavery is one of the most common Christian apologetic talking points — and its also one of the easiest to dismantle once you actually look at the receipts. In this episode, Black Atheist Rants sits down with the Godless Engineer to walk through the colonial paper trail that ties Christianity directly to the transatlantic slave trade — and why no Protestant denomination would even exist today without it.
BAR is one of the most-cited Black voices in atheist counter-apologetics on YouTube, and this is his first appearance on God is FAKE Prove Us Wrong. We cover his deconstruction story — it started with a religious studies class and a philosophy class taken back-to-back at Christian Brothers University — and his strongest argument against the Abrahamic God: a cultural and religious anthropology argument that most apologists have never actually had to answer. Then we get into the receipts. Dum Diversas. Romanus Pontifex. The Doctrine of Discovery. Named scholarly works with page numbers. We also dig into why BAR refuses to entertain internal theological critiques in debate, and why Gods are made up is the only honest starting point in any conversation about the Abrahamic faiths.
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