Uploaded June 2024 | Updated September 2026, 19 hours ago
Genial brass ensemble leader Dave Desmond has been performing with Big Big Train since the very first concerts by the band’s modern incarnation at Kings Place in 2015. Many fans will have appreciated his friendliness at the traditional post show get together, but his voice is heard less often when talking about the band and, in particular, all the highs and lows he has witnessed since those first shows in north London nearly a decade ago.
So today, it’s Dave Desmond’s turn to step down from his normal position and take centre stage in conversation with writer Andy Stuart, as they discuss Big Big Train’s ‘The Journey Continues’ 2023 tour. This discussion was recorded during the writing of Andy’s new book, ‘A View From The Embankment, A View From The Line’. The book features exclusive interview material with all the touring members of the band, dozens of unique concert and backstage photographs and Andy’s personal tour diary of three wonderful weeks in August and September 2023.
‘A View From The Embankment, A View From The Line’ is available for pre-order now from Burning Shed via:
burningshed.com/store/kingmaker
and from The Band Wagon USA via:
thebandwagonusa.com/collections/kingmaker-publishing
In a thoughtful, humorous and typically warm conversation, Dave talks about being the “band within the band”, and how the Big Big Train brass ensemble provides one of the most unique and distinctive sonic elements in progressive rock. He describes how well that quintessentially English colliery band sound travelled around Europe on the ‘The Journey Continues’ tour, and gives a detailed and fascinating insight into the recording and performing of one of the most iconic moments in Big Big Train’s musical repertoire: the finale of ‘Victorian Brickwork’. And finally, we learn who really is the falsetto king of the Big Big Train tour bus (although the runners up may surprise you)!
Dave describes one particular highlight – a unique cover version of a certain Yes track – that fans who attended last year’s gigs are sure to remember.
“I didn’t know ‘Heart of the Sunrise’, or if I did, I’d forgotten! But NDV just said, ‘Listen, all the prog fans will love it when they hear the brass section playing this track’, so I just had to take his word for it. But he was right! It’s a fantastically rewarding experience to have the chance to mix this combination of styles and play such complex music as part of a rock band. That’s a rare treat for us and probably quite a unique one. There may be others, but I can’t think of many other prog or rock bands that tour with a brass ensemble like ours.”
Genial brass ensemble leader Dave Desmond has been performing with Big Big Train since the very first concerts by the band’s modern incarnation at Kings Place in 2015. Many fans will have appreciated his friendliness at the traditional post show get together, but his voice is heard less often when talking about the band and, in particular, all the highs and lows he has witnessed since those first shows in north London nearly a decade ago.
So today, it’s Dave Desmond’s turn to step down from his normal position and take centre stage in conversation with writer Andy Stuart, as they discuss Big Big Train’s ‘The Journey Continues’ 2023 tour. This discussion was recorded during the writing of Andy’s new book, ‘A View From The Embankment, A View From The Line’. The book features exclusive interview material with all the touring members of the band, dozens of unique concert and backstage photographs and Andy’s personal tour diary of three wonderful weeks in August and September 2023.
‘A View From The Embankment, A View From The Line’ is available for pre-order now from Burning Shed via:
burningshed.com/store/kingmaker
and from The Band Wagon USA via:
thebandwagonusa.com/collections/kingmaker-publishing
In a thoughtful, humorous and typically warm conversation, Dave talks about being the “band within the band”, and how the Big Big Train brass ensemble provides one of the most unique and distinctive sonic elements in progressive rock. He describes how well that quintessentially English colliery band sound travelled around Europe on the ‘The Journey Continues’ tour, and gives a detailed and fascinating insight into the recording and performing of one of the most iconic moments in Big Big Train’s musical repertoire: the finale of ‘Victorian Brickwork’. And finally, we learn who really is the falsetto king of the Big Big Train tour bus (although the runners up may surprise you)!
Dave describes one particular highlight – a unique cover version of a certain Yes track – that fans who attended last year’s gigs are sure to remember.
“I didn’t know ‘Heart of the Sunrise’, or if I did, I’d forgotten! But NDV just said, ‘Listen, all the prog fans will love it when they hear the brass section playing this track’, so I just had to take his word for it. But he was right! It’s a fantastically rewarding experience to have the chance to mix this combination of styles and play such complex music as part of a rock band. That’s a rare treat for us and probably quite a unique one. There may be others, but I can’t think of many other prog or rock bands that tour with a brass ensemble like ours.”










![A View From The Embankment, A View From The Line - Nick DVirgilio podcast
“I’ve always been given the freedom by the rest of the band to come up with crazy ideas for the live shows, especially when it comes to using the brass ensemble.”
These are the words of Big Big Train drummer Nick D’Virgilio in conversation with writer Andy Stuart, used to describe some of the wonderful creative moments he’s inspired during the band’s performances on the road. You can listen to this – and much more – in today’s podcast!
In a wide ranging and typically forthright conversation, which contributed to Andy Stuart’s new, 240 page, illustrated tour book, ‘A View From The Embankment, A View From The Line’, NDV discusses his approach to songwriting, what it meant to play classic songs like ‘A Boy In Darkness’ for the first time on stage, and shares insights into the recording of ‘East Coast Racer’ – in particular why he feels his playing on ‘Ingenious Devices’ is even better the original!
The book, which tells the story of the band’s ‘The Journey Continues’ 2023 tour, is available for pre-order now from Burning Shed via:
https://burningshed.com/store/kingmaker
and from The Band Wagon USA via:
https://thebandwagonusa.com/collections/kingmaker-publishing
NDV comments: “In the case of ‘A Boy In Darkness’ I always wanted to play that tune live and it’s a shame we never got to hear David Longdon perform it. Of course, Alberto [Bravin] delivered an amazing vocal on this tour, but it was always one of the tunes that I wish we could have found a place for in previous set lists. If I remember correctly, David was a bit worried about singing ‘A Boy In Darkness’ because it’s such a huge vocal number and I think he felt it could be hard to sing live night after night. Alberto found it challenging too. Even he said it’s not the easiest tune to deliver consistently. It needs total commitment.
“But all that being said, there’s just so much weight to ‘A Boy In Darkness’, especially when you come right back around to the chorus at the end. It’s one of those great moments for a drummer; honestly, I can’t hit the drums hard enough in that final section! At some of the gigs on this tour we had to play with more restraint because of the volume level in the room. And it was so difficult to do that! During ‘A Boy In Darkness’, there’s so much energy flowing through me, I just want to beat the living crap out of the drums! It’s huge fun to feel all that power.” A View From The Embankment, A View From The Line - Nick DVirgilio podcast](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fOgQQTGpJ3I/mqdefault.jpg)