Kriller37 | -2 Cheep Cheep Clip / Full FPG Down+Right Set Up #2 @kriller3771 | Uploaded September 2020 | Updated October 2024, 5 days ago.
First things first: thirty seven
Now that's out of the way, here's the set up description, and how its different than other set ups
The Set Up:
- Framerule 329, R+B the whole level
- 3 frame right release mid air at any point throughout the level (just like happylees 8-3 FPG set up, except this right release has to be 3 frames)
- Full jump on frame 073 (time stamp 0:26)
- Start holding D+R before you land, and D+R off the edge of that top stair
- After running off the edge of that top stair, release B and switch back to holding just right
- Walk off the edge of that bottom stair, and then repress B before landing on the ground
- Frame perfect down press near the end of the platform (see input display to see when this down press happens)
- Frame perfect R to L press on the D-pad, with no frames in between, to clip in the floor
- Finally, get walking speed and do a frame perfect 1 frame jump to full fpg
Difference between this set up and previous D+R set ups:
Previous D+R set ups have involved 2 frame perfect things to get set up, then the frame perfect down press and left press to clip in the floor. When testing new set ups, I was able to prove it impossible to be able to floor clip with R, nothing, L, inputs on the floor clip section, so perfect R to L instant switch will always be required***, so I decided to try and improve other parts of the set up. This set up only has 1 frame perfect button press for the set up, which is the frame 073 full jump, and everything else is buffered inputs done in mid air that have very large timing windows. However, this set up requires a 3 frame right release. So, other than minor things like exactly when and where you do certain inputs, the only real difference between this set up and other set ups is this has one less frame perfect button press, but comes with the cost of having to do a 3 frame right release. I couldn't find a set up with only 1 frame perfect button press before the D+R for the floor clip that didn't involve any sort of right release or anything before hand, but hopefully a set up like that can be found in the future.
*** - You can floor clip with this and some other D+R set ups with the R, nothing, L inputs, but it requires doing a frame perfect R press the frame before you land in the wall, which pushes Mario forwards the last 1-2 subpixels he needs to clip all the way in the wall. This frame perfect R press is not required if you do a perfect R to L switch on the wall clip.
First things first: thirty seven
Now that's out of the way, here's the set up description, and how its different than other set ups
The Set Up:
- Framerule 329, R+B the whole level
- 3 frame right release mid air at any point throughout the level (just like happylees 8-3 FPG set up, except this right release has to be 3 frames)
- Full jump on frame 073 (time stamp 0:26)
- Start holding D+R before you land, and D+R off the edge of that top stair
- After running off the edge of that top stair, release B and switch back to holding just right
- Walk off the edge of that bottom stair, and then repress B before landing on the ground
- Frame perfect down press near the end of the platform (see input display to see when this down press happens)
- Frame perfect R to L press on the D-pad, with no frames in between, to clip in the floor
- Finally, get walking speed and do a frame perfect 1 frame jump to full fpg
Difference between this set up and previous D+R set ups:
Previous D+R set ups have involved 2 frame perfect things to get set up, then the frame perfect down press and left press to clip in the floor. When testing new set ups, I was able to prove it impossible to be able to floor clip with R, nothing, L, inputs on the floor clip section, so perfect R to L instant switch will always be required***, so I decided to try and improve other parts of the set up. This set up only has 1 frame perfect button press for the set up, which is the frame 073 full jump, and everything else is buffered inputs done in mid air that have very large timing windows. However, this set up requires a 3 frame right release. So, other than minor things like exactly when and where you do certain inputs, the only real difference between this set up and other set ups is this has one less frame perfect button press, but comes with the cost of having to do a 3 frame right release. I couldn't find a set up with only 1 frame perfect button press before the D+R for the floor clip that didn't involve any sort of right release or anything before hand, but hopefully a set up like that can be found in the future.
*** - You can floor clip with this and some other D+R set ups with the R, nothing, L inputs, but it requires doing a frame perfect R press the frame before you land in the wall, which pushes Mario forwards the last 1-2 subpixels he needs to clip all the way in the wall. This frame perfect R press is not required if you do a perfect R to L switch on the wall clip.
![[TAS] SMB1 Maximum Coins 6-2 84 frame improvement](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sbyC1DdoYoY/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMB1 Maximum Coins 6-2 84 frame improvement
Note - Most, if not all, of the inputs of this tas that arent in the underground sections of this level are not tased by me, and are the inputs from the current published maximum coins TAS, by CuteQt, Tehh_083 & HappyLee. The submission can be seen here: http://tasvideos.org/4834S.html
This is 84 frames faster than the current published maximum coins tas. The time save comes from clipping in the wall in the underground section without having to jump at all in the wall to get pushed all the way in. This is done by using both of the last 2 coins on the far right to by-pass the floor detection on 2 of the blocks in that wall, instead of only 1. This is the same clip that is in the famous angrewG oh man woah twitch clip, where he gets this same clip in 4-2 underground after failing 4-2 wrong warp.
The coin blocks are also dependent on the 21 framerule timer, so to get the maximum number of coins from them (16), you have to sometimes wait a bit before hitting the coin block for the first time (this is also talked about in the submission notes of the maximum coins tas). It just so happens that 4 of the times the current tas went to the underground, it was close to the next coin-block framerule, but didnt get it, so instead had to wait for a bit to get the next coin block framerule. This faster underground method was enough to save that extra framerule 4 times in the underground.
With the extra in-game seconds this 6-2 gets, you do just barely have enough time to full fpg with the parakoopa at the end of the level like the warpless tas does, but because the in game timer is so low (actually 000), full fpg doesnt save any time.
Also, incase some of you were thinking this, this is not the thing i mentioned a couple days ago in some discord servers, about the very precise TAS improvement that i recently made. That is something else, which is still going to remain a secret for now kosmicZ.
TASd this around a month or 2 ago, but wanted to keep it secret at the time. I now know that im definitely not gonna be working on remaking this tas with this time save for a long time, if ever, so i figured there was no reason to keep it a secret, and why not upload it to youtube.")
