Uploaded March 2021 | Updated September 2026, 16 minutes ago
[Trigger warning: mention of anxiety and suicide prevention] *Recorded in November 2020*
On the cusp of the pandemic, Jordan - Founder of Listen Lucy, had just invested for her business to scale from speaking engagements into a speaking agency but 2020 decided otherwise and with events coming to a halt, her business collapsed. Today we talk about how we both sank on the 2020 boat and what helped us bounce back. Both with very different surroundings and support systems.
We go over:
// How to deal with a crisis
// When your livelihood is taken away from you, how to cope so you can move on to your next chapter?
// In order to be the best parent for your kids, you sometimes need to prioritise yourself.
// To quote Jordan: “That’s the thing with mental illness. As your life changes, so does the illness, and you have to adapt.” If a coping mechanism doesn't work anymore, drop it and replace it with something else, don’t stunt your process.
// When you’re feeling depressed or anxious, how do we convey how we’re feeling without freaking people out or making them feel powerless?
// When mental health issues are part of who we are, we shouldn’t apologise for that.
// We all have mental health.
// When pulling away from your partner because you’re ashamed of showing them your mental health, that can be a breach of trust.
// Why spreading the message and exposing herself like this, is so important for Jordan.
// The 5 warning signs your friend may not be doing well and needs you to check in [WHAP which stands for Withdrawal - Hopelessness - Agitation - Poor self care &/or Personality change].
// The Upper limit problem
Book reference: The Big Leap
Come find Jordan ListenLucy.org
Become a podcaster with me: https://www.learnpodcasting.online/
If you want to support this show, I have a ‘AMA’ donor exclusives here: buymeacoffee.com/2oldforthisshit
For mental health crisis helplines:
UK: mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/crisis-services/helplines-listening-services
Europe: mhe-sme.org/library/helplines
USA: American Foundation of Suicide Prevention
Suicide and Depression Awareness for Student
NAMI Resources on Suicide Prevention
NAMI Resources on Suicide Risk
[Trigger warning: mention of anxiety and suicide prevention] *Recorded in November 2020*
On the cusp of the pandemic, Jordan - Founder of Listen Lucy, had just invested for her business to scale from speaking engagements into a speaking agency but 2020 decided otherwise and with events coming to a halt, her business collapsed. Today we talk about how we both sank on the 2020 boat and what helped us bounce back. Both with very different surroundings and support systems.
We go over:
// How to deal with a crisis
// When your livelihood is taken away from you, how to cope so you can move on to your next chapter?
// In order to be the best parent for your kids, you sometimes need to prioritise yourself.
// To quote Jordan: “That’s the thing with mental illness. As your life changes, so does the illness, and you have to adapt.” If a coping mechanism doesn't work anymore, drop it and replace it with something else, don’t stunt your process.
// When you’re feeling depressed or anxious, how do we convey how we’re feeling without freaking people out or making them feel powerless?
// When mental health issues are part of who we are, we shouldn’t apologise for that.
// We all have mental health.
// When pulling away from your partner because you’re ashamed of showing them your mental health, that can be a breach of trust.
// Why spreading the message and exposing herself like this, is so important for Jordan.
// The 5 warning signs your friend may not be doing well and needs you to check in [WHAP which stands for Withdrawal - Hopelessness - Agitation - Poor self care &/or Personality change].
// The Upper limit problem
Book reference: The Big Leap
Come find Jordan ListenLucy.org
Become a podcaster with me: https://www.learnpodcasting.online/
If you want to support this show, I have a ‘AMA’ donor exclusives here: buymeacoffee.com/2oldforthisshit
For mental health crisis helplines:
UK: mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/crisis-services/helplines-listening-services
Europe: mhe-sme.org/library/helplines
USA: American Foundation of Suicide Prevention
Suicide and Depression Awareness for Student
NAMI Resources on Suicide Prevention
NAMI Resources on Suicide Risk
