Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, host Paul Barnhurst, co-host Glenn, and guests Zach Rial and Chris Ortega explore how finance teams can build budgeting and forecasting processes around stakeholder needs, business value, and better decision-making.
A process isn't valuable just because you repeat it every month.
Updating models isn't the same as engaging the business.
A rolling forecast can quickly become another finance exercise if nobody outside finance actually uses it.
The real question is what value are you trying to create?
Start by identifying the people who need the forecast to make decisions.
Ask them what they actually need it to tell them.
If sales calls it "the finance number", you've already lost alignment.
🎧 Listen to the full episode on @thefpandaguy
#FPandA #RollingForecast #FinancialPlanning #Budgeting #BusinessPartnering #FinanceLeadership #Forecasting #StrategicFinance
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, host Paul Barnhurst, co-host Glenn, and guests Zach Rial and Chris Ortega explore how finance teams can build budgeting and forecasting processes around stakeholder needs, business value, and better decision-making.
A process isn't valuable just because you repeat it every month.
Updating models isn't the same as engaging the business.
A rolling forecast can quickly become another finance exercise if nobody outside finance actually uses it.
The real question is what value are you trying to create?
Start by identifying the people who need the forecast to make decisions.
Ask them what they actually need it to tell them.
If sales calls it "the finance number", you've already lost alignment.
🎧 Listen to the full episode on @thefpandaguy
#FPandA #RollingForecast #FinancialPlanning #Budgeting #BusinessPartnering #FinanceLeadership #Forecasting #StrategicFinance
![AI in Financial Modeling: Better Than Ever, Still Not There, and the Fatigue Factor
In this episode of The Mod Squad, Paul Barnhurst, Ian Schnoor, and Giles Male share their real experiences using AI in financial modeling. They discuss what works, what doesn’t, and how finance professionals can best use AI today. From testing different AI tools to running a “bake-off” on a real financial model, the conversation highlights the practical challenges, hallucinations, and creative approaches to working with AI in FP&A.
Expect to Learn
Where AI actually adds value in modeling and finance workflows
Why AI outputs still need careful checking and guidance
How different AI tools compare when building real models
Why instructions, structure, and human oversight improve AI results
Here are a few quotes from the episode:
“Most companies don’t have AI governance yet, and that’s where real risk comes in.” - Ian Schnoor
“Automation is great, but you still need to audit and understand every step.” - Giles Male
AI is powerful, but it is not a shortcut to quality work. It still needs guidance, structure, and strong fundamentals. The people who benefit most are those who understand both the tools and the work behind them. For now, the best approach is simple: test it, guide it, and never trust it blindly.
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LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianschnoor/
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LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/giles-male-30643b15/
In today’s episode:
[00:05] – Trailer
[03:06] – AI Progress Update
[05:00] – Mental Load & AI Pace
[08:03] – Busting AI Hype
[12:30] – Training & Business Demands
[17:57] – AI “Eye of the Storm”
[24:13] – Testing AI Models
[30:52] – Fixing vs Building AI Models
[35:15] – Challenging Misleading AI Claims
[38:41] – Improving AI with Instructions
[42:59] – Final Thoughts & Takeaways AI in Financial Modeling: Better Than Ever, Still Not There, and the Fatigue Factor](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AOx6SibnZms/mqdefault.jpg)
![The AI Data Pioneer: Building the Future of Finance with Alex Curran
In this episode of Future Finance, hosts Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper welcome Alex Curran, CEO of Aptitude Software, to discuss the future of finance systems, AI-native ERP, and how organizations can prepare their finance functions for a rapidly changing technology landscape. Alex shares how finance teams can move beyond outdated systems, improve data foundations, and use AI to enable faster, more informed decision-making.
Alex Curran is the CEO of Aptitude Software, a company that has spent over 40 years building finance solutions for complex organizations. After joining Aptitude over 12 years ago, Alex progressed through multiple leadership roles before becoming CEO in 2023. She now leads the company’s focus on AI-native finance technology and modern ERP solutions.
In this episode, you will discover:
Why CFOs are expected to become strategic partners in business decisions.
Why clean data and strong architecture are essential for successful AI adoption.
How AI-native ERP systems differ from traditional finance platforms.
Why real-time finance and continuous close are becoming possible.
How AI will change finance roles and create new opportunities.
Alex explains why the future of finance is not just about adding AI tools, but about building the right systems, data foundations, and processes to make AI valuable and trustworthy.
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Website: http://fynapse.app/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-curran-9aa593b/
Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review.
Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai.
Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike.
In Today’s Episode:
[00:00] – Trailer
[05:22] – The Modern CFO Role
[11:36] – Building Flexible AI Systems
[15:16] – Evaluating ERP Solutions
[19:08] – Legacy ERP vs AI-Native ERP
[23:39] – Real-Time Finance & Continuous Close
[27:02] – AI’s Impact on Finance Teams
[30:24] – The Future of Accountants
[35:44] – AI Questions & Leadership Lessons
[36:53] – Finance System Implementation Challenges
[38:40] – Alex’s CEO Journey
[40:04] – Closing Thoughts on Finance’s Future The AI Data Pioneer: Building the Future of Finance with Alex Curran](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AxbVW00htRU/mqdefault.jpg)

![How FP&A Teams Can Improve Decision-Making with Scenario Planning & Financial Models - Michael
FP&A & AI Software Showcase: Explore Leading Tools
FP&A leaders are embracing AI, and we’re here to help. On May 21st, I’ll host the FP&A & AI Software Showcase, featuring FP&A planning and AI tools like Concourse, Sapien, Drivetrain, and Una AI. Join us for live demos, insights, and no sales pressure.
Register today: www.thefpandaguy.com/fpa-software-showcase
In this episode of FP&A Unlocked, Paul Barnhurst speaks with Michael Gould, a technology entrepreneur and founder of Kaleidoscope, about his extensive experience in financial planning and modelling. Michael shares insights from his 40+ years in the industry, including his work with Anaplan, and discusses how modern finance teams can break free from the limitations of spreadsheets and legacy systems.
Michael Gould is a technology entrepreneur and software engineer with over 40 years of experience in financial planning and modeling systems. After studying Mathematics and Computation at the University of Oxford, Michael co-created Adaytum, a leading business planning platform, and later founded Anaplan, a globally successful enterprise planning platform that became a British tech unicorn. Today, he is the founder of Kaleidoscope, focusing on rethinking financial modeling for modern teams and continuing to pioneer innovations that drive better decision-making in business. .
Expect to Learn:
The challenges and complexities of modern financial modelling
How Kaleidoscope is helping businesses move beyond spreadsheets
Michaels journey from IBM to Anaplan and now Kaleidoscope
The importance of understanding business processes in financial modelling
How AI is impacting the financial modeling landscape
Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
“The key to financial modeling is representing the complexity of a business without over-simplifying it.” – Michael Gould
“AI is a powerful tool, but it’s the data context that drives the real value.” – Michael Gould
Michael Gould shared invaluable insights from his four-decade-long journey in financial planning and modeling. He emphasized the importance of adapting financial models to support effective decision-making and how AI is reshaping the landscape. As businesses, both big and small, navigate complex decisions, Michaels work with Kaleidoscope aims to offer accessible, scalable solutions for better planning and risk assessment in the future.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/migould/
Website: https://www.kaleidoscope.com/?utm_source=partner_fpandaguys&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=interview       
Earn Your CPE Credit
For CPE credit, please go to earmarkcpe.com, listen to the episode, download the app, answer a few questions, and earn your CPE certification. To earn education credits for the FPAC Certificate, take the quiz on earmark and contact Paul Barnhurst for further details.
In Today’s Episode
[00:00] – Trailer
[06:00] – Challenges of Multi-Dimensional Modelling
[12:00] – Transitioning to Anaplan
[15:00] – Kaleidoscope’s Mission to Help Small Businesses
[21:00] – The Role of AI in Financial Modelling
[27:00] – The Future of Financial Modelling
[33:00] – Key Learnings from the Entrepreneurial Journey
[39:00] – How AI is Changing Financial Decision-Making
[45:00] – Overcoming the Data Challenges in Finance
[51:00] – Final Thoughts on Innovation and Future Trends in Finance
[57:00] – Conclusion and Key Takeaways How FP&A Teams Can Improve Decision-Making with Scenario Planning & Financial Models - Michael](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BC1KaU6QOWc/mqdefault.jpg)






![How to Save Time in FP&A Using Structured AI Analysis with Nick and Dan
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper sit down with Nick Jain and Daniel Settel, co-founders of Eagle Rock CFO, to discuss how AI is reshaping FP&A and fractional CFO services. Nick and Dan explain how their AI-powered system combines structured data processing, automation, and financial expertise to help companies analyze complex financial data faster, reduce manual workload, and uncover hidden value in their operations.
Dan and Nick are co-founders of Eagle Rock CFO, a financial advisory firm helping mid-size businesses grow faster and improve profitability. They combine AI and technology to deliver operational finance insights at a fraction of traditional consulting costs. Both are Harvard Business School graduates, with undergraduate degrees from Stanford and Dartmouth. Dan previously co-founded FinTech company Zanbato and worked as a professional investor at PrimeCap, while Nick has experience in private equity investing and scaling companies across SaaS, footwear, and trucking.
In this episode, you will discover:
AI works best when paired with structured financial data, not raw inputs
Why deterministic systems still matter alongside AI in finance workflows
How Eagle Rock’s 5-step system improves financial analysis accuracy
Why human oversight is still needed in AI-powered FP&A systems
How fractional CFOs can save 20–50 hours per month using AI tools
Nick and Daniel demonstrate how AI is transforming finance by automating analysis while still relying on structured systems and human judgment. Their approach shows that the future of FP&A is not fully autonomous AI, but a hybrid model where AI enhances decision-making, improves efficiency, and strengthens financial visibility.
Follow Nick:
Website: https://www.eaglerockcfo.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmjain/
Follow Dan:
Website: https://www.eaglerockcfo.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dsettel/
Follow Glenn:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii
Follow Paul:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy
Follow QFlow.AI:
Website - https://bit.ly/4i1Ekjg
Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai.
Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike.
In Today’s Episode:
[00:00] – Trailer
[04:10] – Founding Eagle Rock CFO
[06:21] – Deterministic vs probabilistic systems
[07:22] – Why agents are not enough
[09:13] – Data compression and structuring
[10:13] – Human oversight in AI workflows
[14:51] – Data mess in SMB finance
[18:38] – White-label and consulting model
[22:18] – How to start using AI safely
[29:36] – CFO vs CEO vs CIO experience
[33:45] – Closing thoughts How to Save Time in FP&A Using Structured AI Analysis with Nick and Dan](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BqfRS_S-WcQ/mqdefault.jpg)