Uploaded January 2024 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
A debate as old as the very first American locomotive builders - American steam versus British steam. I know, the conversation is dumb and filled to the brim with intellectual dishonesty, but some people seem to think it makes for good content. But did you know that three of the largest railways in England actually had a taste of American trains, long before the Classes 59 and 66 came along?
SOURCES & CREDIT
Photograph of an Arabian horse and its handler by unknown author - http://columbus.gl.iit.edu/, Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=5250063
Photograph of Derby Works by Andy Dingley (scanner) - Scan from Allen, Cecil J. (1928) The Steel Highway, London: Longmans, Green & Co., pp. facing page. (II) 12, Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10636755
Photograph of a Pullman carriage by unknown photographer - Transferred from en.wikipedia to Commons by Tam0031 using CommonsHelper. Original source: chicagohs.org/history/pullman/pul1.html (CHS G1988.0426 Box 2, F.1), Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=5574831
Photograph of Great Northern Baldwin Mogul no.1190 (2/3rds) by unknown photographer - Flickr, Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=112736587
Photograph of Great Northern Baldwin Mogul no.1190 (en face) by unknown author - This file was provided to Wikimedia Commons by the Bulgarian Archives State Agency as part of a cooperation project. The Bulgarian Archives State Agency provides images, which are public domain. For attribution/citation of the source, Bulgarian Archives State Agency, please use the identification numbers of the document's fonds, inventory, archival unit and sheet., Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=54832628
Photograph of Midland Railway Class 2511 Schenectady Mogul no.2512 by Internet Archive Book Images - flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/14756861561/Source book page: archive.org/stream/americanengineer73newy/americanengineer73newy#page/n240/mode/1up, No restrictions, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=43485146
Photograph of Midland Railway Class 2511 Schenectady Mogul no.2516 by Andy Dingley (scanner) - Scan from Howden, J.R. (1907) The Boys' Book of Locomotives, London: E. Grant Richards, pp. fig. 2, Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10528539
Scan of a share of the Pullman Company by Pullman's Palace Car Company - The Cooper Collection of US Railroad History (Uploader's collection) Transferred from en.wikipedia to Commons, Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=7059111
Scan of the Midland Railway's route map - The Railway Year Book for 1920. The Railway Publishing Company Limited, London., Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=143448562
Works drawing of a USATC S100 0-6-0 switcher - Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=749220
Website sources:
archive.org/details/americanengineer73newy/page/226/mode/2up?view=theater&q=Midland
steamlocomotive.com/locobase.php?country=Great_Britain&wheel=2-6-0&railroad=gc
steamlocomotive.com/locobase.php?country=Great_Britain&wheel=2-6-0&railroad=gn
Literary sources:
'Midland Railway Portrait' by Peter Truman & David Hunt, published jointly between Platform 5 Publishing Ltd. & Foxline Publishing
LINKS
Discord server - discord.gg/PtekEPJ
Twitter - twitter.com/TeaWithCaramel1
Outro music: Kevin MacLeod - Fiddles McGinty
Channel icon by Dean Walker
#MidlandRailway #Baldwin
A debate as old as the very first American locomotive builders - American steam versus British steam. I know, the conversation is dumb and filled to the brim with intellectual dishonesty, but some people seem to think it makes for good content. But did you know that three of the largest railways in England actually had a taste of American trains, long before the Classes 59 and 66 came along?
SOURCES & CREDIT
Photograph of an Arabian horse and its handler by unknown author - http://columbus.gl.iit.edu/, Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=5250063
Photograph of Derby Works by Andy Dingley (scanner) - Scan from Allen, Cecil J. (1928) The Steel Highway, London: Longmans, Green & Co., pp. facing page. (II) 12, Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10636755
Photograph of a Pullman carriage by unknown photographer - Transferred from en.wikipedia to Commons by Tam0031 using CommonsHelper. Original source: chicagohs.org/history/pullman/pul1.html (CHS G1988.0426 Box 2, F.1), Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=5574831
Photograph of Great Northern Baldwin Mogul no.1190 (2/3rds) by unknown photographer - Flickr, Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=112736587
Photograph of Great Northern Baldwin Mogul no.1190 (en face) by unknown author - This file was provided to Wikimedia Commons by the Bulgarian Archives State Agency as part of a cooperation project. The Bulgarian Archives State Agency provides images, which are public domain. For attribution/citation of the source, Bulgarian Archives State Agency, please use the identification numbers of the document's fonds, inventory, archival unit and sheet., Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=54832628
Photograph of Midland Railway Class 2511 Schenectady Mogul no.2512 by Internet Archive Book Images - flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/14756861561/Source book page: archive.org/stream/americanengineer73newy/americanengineer73newy#page/n240/mode/1up, No restrictions, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=43485146
Photograph of Midland Railway Class 2511 Schenectady Mogul no.2516 by Andy Dingley (scanner) - Scan from Howden, J.R. (1907) The Boys' Book of Locomotives, London: E. Grant Richards, pp. fig. 2, Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10528539
Scan of a share of the Pullman Company by Pullman's Palace Car Company - The Cooper Collection of US Railroad History (Uploader's collection) Transferred from en.wikipedia to Commons, Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=7059111
Scan of the Midland Railway's route map - The Railway Year Book for 1920. The Railway Publishing Company Limited, London., Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=143448562
Works drawing of a USATC S100 0-6-0 switcher - Public Domain, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=749220
Website sources:
archive.org/details/americanengineer73newy/page/226/mode/2up?view=theater&q=Midland
steamlocomotive.com/locobase.php?country=Great_Britain&wheel=2-6-0&railroad=gc
steamlocomotive.com/locobase.php?country=Great_Britain&wheel=2-6-0&railroad=gn
Literary sources:
'Midland Railway Portrait' by Peter Truman & David Hunt, published jointly between Platform 5 Publishing Ltd. & Foxline Publishing
LINKS
Discord server - discord.gg/PtekEPJ
Twitter - twitter.com/TeaWithCaramel1
Outro music: Kevin MacLeod - Fiddles McGinty
Channel icon by Dean Walker
#MidlandRailway #Baldwin
