The Meaning Code | Worlds in Collision: Intelligence through the Lens of Wolfgang Smith, Michael Levin, Stephen Wolfram @TheMeaningCode | Uploaded June 2022 | Updated October 2024, 4 hours ago.
Glen and I talk informally (we hadn't intended to publish, but some really great stuff came up). Prepping ideas for future talks on this channel with Michael Levin, John Vervaeke and Wolfgang Smith where we might touch on the topic of intelligence. We also discuss computation and Stephen Wolfram's theory.
Brian Miller: The Surprising Relevance of Engineering in Biology
youtu.be/M9i2vFEa6rE
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
03:00 How do you frame intelligence mathematically so that physics can deal with it?
The Nature of the Observer in physics.
05:00 The Observer as intelligent agent with free choice
07:00 How do you explain where the intelligence is coming from that is making things happen?
08:15 Clip from Stephen Wolfram, molecular computing, regarding the necessity for uniqueness of emes. They have to exist, and they have to have unique id’s.
Start at 1:19:00: youtu.be/rzM3jM7Dtds
14:00 Contrasting the views of Michael Levin and Stephen Wolfram on intelligence.
Where is the intelligent agent that’s acting on the system?
18:30 From the view point of Wolfgang Smith, The Observer is a composite entity, not a single thing.
19:15 Computation is a sequence of choices based on a set of rules.
22:00 Intelligence is more like an adverb. It’s HOW something works. Something that responds in a way that makes a sequence of choices based on its environment…
Defies entropy, and you see spontaneous creation of new order.
31:15 Physicists can’t tell you where the observer comes from. They can’t tell you where Physicists come from:-)
34:00 Maxwell’s Demon explained!
36:30 The observer sets up an experiment, and then… Did the observer have a choice?
Consider the entanglement. Observers Alice and Bob.
42:00 The conductor in the system
46:00 The sub-routines
Discussing the two realms of the quantum measuring system
53:00 Paul VanderKlay clip of the Wolfgang Smith Conversation, at 10:55
youtu.be/531YoPyzvkg
1:00:15 Every time you see intelligence, there’s got to be a composite structure of some kind that is obeying certain rules.
1:02:00 How do you get from the quantum to the classical world? You have to introduce something that breaks determinism.
A choice isn’t a choice unless it changes the future.
1:03:00 Some things can change the future and some things can’t. If something has the capacity to change the future timeline, to pick between possible future timelines, that’s where I would use the term agent. Still working on the terminology.
1:06:00 Computational irreducibility v. Irreducible complexity
Rule 30 is completely random
Rule 110 is Turing complete
In this section, I was mixing up these terms. I really meant computational irreducibility.
1:15:00 Dark matter and dark energy, dark energy has to do with the expansion of the universe which implies that energy is flowing into the universe
1:39:00-1:45:00 - the fundamental nature of language and how it relates to computation and community
Glen and I talk informally (we hadn't intended to publish, but some really great stuff came up). Prepping ideas for future talks on this channel with Michael Levin, John Vervaeke and Wolfgang Smith where we might touch on the topic of intelligence. We also discuss computation and Stephen Wolfram's theory.
Brian Miller: The Surprising Relevance of Engineering in Biology
youtu.be/M9i2vFEa6rE
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
03:00 How do you frame intelligence mathematically so that physics can deal with it?
The Nature of the Observer in physics.
05:00 The Observer as intelligent agent with free choice
07:00 How do you explain where the intelligence is coming from that is making things happen?
08:15 Clip from Stephen Wolfram, molecular computing, regarding the necessity for uniqueness of emes. They have to exist, and they have to have unique id’s.
Start at 1:19:00: youtu.be/rzM3jM7Dtds
14:00 Contrasting the views of Michael Levin and Stephen Wolfram on intelligence.
Where is the intelligent agent that’s acting on the system?
18:30 From the view point of Wolfgang Smith, The Observer is a composite entity, not a single thing.
19:15 Computation is a sequence of choices based on a set of rules.
22:00 Intelligence is more like an adverb. It’s HOW something works. Something that responds in a way that makes a sequence of choices based on its environment…
Defies entropy, and you see spontaneous creation of new order.
31:15 Physicists can’t tell you where the observer comes from. They can’t tell you where Physicists come from:-)
34:00 Maxwell’s Demon explained!
36:30 The observer sets up an experiment, and then… Did the observer have a choice?
Consider the entanglement. Observers Alice and Bob.
42:00 The conductor in the system
46:00 The sub-routines
Discussing the two realms of the quantum measuring system
53:00 Paul VanderKlay clip of the Wolfgang Smith Conversation, at 10:55
youtu.be/531YoPyzvkg
1:00:15 Every time you see intelligence, there’s got to be a composite structure of some kind that is obeying certain rules.
1:02:00 How do you get from the quantum to the classical world? You have to introduce something that breaks determinism.
A choice isn’t a choice unless it changes the future.
1:03:00 Some things can change the future and some things can’t. If something has the capacity to change the future timeline, to pick between possible future timelines, that’s where I would use the term agent. Still working on the terminology.
1:06:00 Computational irreducibility v. Irreducible complexity
Rule 30 is completely random
Rule 110 is Turing complete
In this section, I was mixing up these terms. I really meant computational irreducibility.
1:15:00 Dark matter and dark energy, dark energy has to do with the expansion of the universe which implies that energy is flowing into the universe
1:39:00-1:45:00 - the fundamental nature of language and how it relates to computation and community