polýMATHY | Why “Traditional” Methods Don’t Work for Latin or Greek (or any language!) 2nd Language Acquisition @polyMATHY_Luke | Uploaded March 2024 | Updated October 2024, 1 hour ago.
Teaching Latin and Ancient Greek in most countries involves the learning of grammatical rules and the translation of ancient texts with a dictionary, but this leads to very little real acquisition of the language. While the grammar-translation method is thought of as "traditional," it is actually a novelty of the past two centuries, and was once common in the teaching of modern languages as well, but thanks to the studies of the past 50 years, grammar-translation has been discarded as unhelpful at best, and harmful at worst, at least in the teaching of modern languages. No language can be acquired via grammar translation, ancient or modern, and this video will tell you why this is. In it, I respond to some thougthful comments that challenge these ideas, and offer my responses publicly.
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🏛 Ancient Greek in Action · Free Greek Lessons:
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLU1WuLg45SixsonRdfNNv-CPNq8xUwgam
👨🏫 My Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata playlist · Free Latin Lessons:
youtu.be/j7hd799IznU
🦂 ScorpioMartianus (my channel for content in Latin, Ancient Greek, & Ancient Egyptian)
youtube.com/ScorpioMartianus
🎙 Hundreds of hours of Latin & Greek audio:
lukeranieri.com/audio
🌍 polýMATHY website:
lukeranieri.com/polymathy
🌅 polýMATHY on Instagram:
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🦁 Legio XIII Latin Language Podcast:
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🦂 ScorpioMartianus.com
🦅 LukeRanieri.com
📖 My book Ranieri Reverse Recall on Amazon:
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Intro and outro music: Overture of Die Zauberflöte (The Magic Flute) by Mozart
0:00 Intro to Comprehensible Input
0:33 Comments on the Ranieri-Roberts Approach to Ancient Greek
1:23 Comment #1: 'Graded readers are irrelevant: just use grammar-translation to understand ancient texts'
3:00 Response to Comment #1
5:00 "Input" Hypothesis and Stephen Krashen
10:21 Acqusition only happens when Input is Comprehensible
12:05 Ride a Bike, or Build a Bike
14:26 Language Acqusition Device
15:58 Summary of Response to Comment #1
22:26 Why Dicaeopolis and Julius matter
24:29 Comment #2: 'Athenaze & Familia Romana are frustrating because I want to understand the grammar before guessing at grammatical rules from a text
24:53 Response to Comment #2, Part 1
28:05 Response to Comment #2, Part 2
29:09 Response to Comment #2, Part 3
32:31 Response to Comment #2, Part 4
33:38 Response to Comment #2, Part 5
38:27 Response to Comment #2, Part 6
39:41 Response to Comment #2, Part 7
41:27 Comment #3: 'Can pictures really be as useful as translation?'
47:13 Comment #4: 'I want practice, not just passive reading'
53:05 Summary and request for further questions from the audience
Teaching Latin and Ancient Greek in most countries involves the learning of grammatical rules and the translation of ancient texts with a dictionary, but this leads to very little real acquisition of the language. While the grammar-translation method is thought of as "traditional," it is actually a novelty of the past two centuries, and was once common in the teaching of modern languages as well, but thanks to the studies of the past 50 years, grammar-translation has been discarded as unhelpful at best, and harmful at worst, at least in the teaching of modern languages. No language can be acquired via grammar translation, ancient or modern, and this video will tell you why this is. In it, I respond to some thougthful comments that challenge these ideas, and offer my responses publicly.
To get all the input you need to master any of 40 languages, sign up for LingQ with this link and get 35% off the 12-month plan:
lingq.com/accounts/new/?next=/accounts/subscription/basic_2018/12/b_12lukeranieri/checkout/&referral=lukeranieri
🦂 Support my work on Patreon:
patreon.com/LukeRanieri
📚 Luke Ranieri Audiobooks:
luke-ranieri.myshopify.com
🤠 Take my course LATIN UNCOVERED on StoryLearning, including my original Latin adventure novella "Vir Petasātus"
learn.storylearning.com/lu-promo?affiliate_id=3932873
🦂 Sign up for my Latin Pronunciation & Conversation series on Patreon:
patreon.com/posts/54058196
☕️ Support my work with PayPal:
paypal.me/lukeranieri
And if you like, do consider joining this channel:
youtube.com/channel/UCLbiwlm3poGNh5XSVlXBkGA/join
🏛 Latin by the Ranieri-Dowling Method: luke-ranieri.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/latin-by-the-ranieri-dowling-method-latin-summary-of-forms-of-nouns-verbs-adjectives-pronouns-audio-grammar-tables
🏺Ancient Greek by the Ranieri-Dowling Method: luke-ranieri.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/ancient-greek-by-the-ranieri-dowling-method-latin-summary-of-forms-of-nouns-verbs-adjectives-pronouns-audio-grammar-tables
🏛 Ancient Greek in Action · Free Greek Lessons:
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLU1WuLg45SixsonRdfNNv-CPNq8xUwgam
👨🏫 My Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata playlist · Free Latin Lessons:
youtu.be/j7hd799IznU
🦂 ScorpioMartianus (my channel for content in Latin, Ancient Greek, & Ancient Egyptian)
youtube.com/ScorpioMartianus
🎙 Hundreds of hours of Latin & Greek audio:
lukeranieri.com/audio
🌍 polýMATHY website:
lukeranieri.com/polymathy
🌅 polýMATHY on Instagram:
instagram.com/lukeranieri
🦁 Legio XIII Latin Language Podcast:
youtube.com/LegioXIII
👕 Merch:
teespring.com/stores/scorpiomartianus
🦂 ScorpioMartianus.com
🦅 LukeRanieri.com
📖 My book Ranieri Reverse Recall on Amazon:
amzn.to/2nVUfqd
Intro and outro music: Overture of Die Zauberflöte (The Magic Flute) by Mozart
0:00 Intro to Comprehensible Input
0:33 Comments on the Ranieri-Roberts Approach to Ancient Greek
1:23 Comment #1: 'Graded readers are irrelevant: just use grammar-translation to understand ancient texts'
3:00 Response to Comment #1
5:00 "Input" Hypothesis and Stephen Krashen
10:21 Acqusition only happens when Input is Comprehensible
12:05 Ride a Bike, or Build a Bike
14:26 Language Acqusition Device
15:58 Summary of Response to Comment #1
22:26 Why Dicaeopolis and Julius matter
24:29 Comment #2: 'Athenaze & Familia Romana are frustrating because I want to understand the grammar before guessing at grammatical rules from a text
24:53 Response to Comment #2, Part 1
28:05 Response to Comment #2, Part 2
29:09 Response to Comment #2, Part 3
32:31 Response to Comment #2, Part 4
33:38 Response to Comment #2, Part 5
38:27 Response to Comment #2, Part 6
39:41 Response to Comment #2, Part 7
41:27 Comment #3: 'Can pictures really be as useful as translation?'
47:13 Comment #4: 'I want practice, not just passive reading'
53:05 Summary and request for further questions from the audience
