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Among many other things, John Ashworth, the fashion icon, has spent the last ten years resurrecting Goat Hill Park in Oceanside, Calif. What was an underachieving community asset has become a thriving hub of goodness. And now he brings that community mentality and vibe back to the Ashworth Golf Company. To follow along, go to www.ashworth-golf.com.
Among many other things, John Ashworth, the fashion icon, has spent the last ten years resurrecting Goat Hill Park in Oceanside, Calif. What was an underachieving community asset has become a thriving hub of goodness. And now he brings that community mentality and vibe back to the Ashworth Golf Company. To follow along, go to www.ashworth-golf.com.
![Need a 4th?! Ep. 6 with Ben Crenshaw [FULL PODCAST]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K_pcrSWzMVU/mqdefault.jpg "Need a 4th?! Ep. 6 with Ben Crenshaw [FULL PODCAST]
Now, on an all new Need A 4th: the gentle wisdom of a golfing legend, Mr. Ben Crenshaw! In this episode, Alan Shipnuck, Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Bamberger visit with the only man who could have found his way to the World Golf Hall of Fame wearing two different hats, one as a player (two-time winner of the Masters) and the other as an architect (Sand Hills, just for starters).
Geoff has played in loads of tournaments with Crenshaw, and Alan and Michael have been interviewing him for years, but in this conversation they all heard things they had not before. Ben talks about the new 13th tee at Augusta National, and his memories of playing there as an amateur.
Geoff asks Ben about the secrets to putting, and you wont have to be a U.S. Open winner (as Geoff is) to understand the wisdom of what Ben says!
Ben speaks movingly about his love for the game, for The Country Club, for caddies, for courses. Need a good listen? Allow us to offer, “Need A 4th?!”
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0:00 Intro
2:16 Ben Crenshaw on the Sandbelt
8:16 Course Architecture
13:47 Changes to Augusta National
26:18 Playing “boring” courses
33:57 Medinah Country Club
43:43 Ben Hogan story
45:18 $250 Giveaway!
46:12 Unkept golf courses
52:27 Quirky tracks
1:04:47 The essence of Ben
1:06:57 Secrets to putting
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