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Welcome to the intersection of how and why golf is such an incredible sport and what’s possible when a community asset nurtures the future by investing in kids.
These roads have led to Ada and Annabelle Lee, twin sisters and daughters of Vietnamese refugees who are currently enrolled in the University of Washington on full scholarships, both studying to be engineers.
They got there on their own narrow shoulders and because of people like their parents, the late and great Chick Evans, John Ashworth, Will Kropp and many more.
Welcome to the intersection of how and why golf is such an incredible sport and what’s possible when a community asset nurtures the future by investing in kids.
These roads have led to Ada and Annabelle Lee, twin sisters and daughters of Vietnamese refugees who are currently enrolled in the University of Washington on full scholarships, both studying to be engineers.
They got there on their own narrow shoulders and because of people like their parents, the late and great Chick Evans, John Ashworth, Will Kropp and many more.
![Need a 4th?! Ep. 6 with Ben Crenshaw [FULL PODCAST]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K_pcrSWzMVU/mqdefault.jpg "Need a 4th?! Ep. 6 with Ben Crenshaw [FULL PODCAST]
Now, on an all new Need A 4th: the gentle wisdom of a golfing legend, Mr. Ben Crenshaw! In this episode, Alan Shipnuck, Geoff Ogilvy and Michael Bamberger visit with the only man who could have found his way to the World Golf Hall of Fame wearing two different hats, one as a player (two-time winner of the Masters) and the other as an architect (Sand Hills, just for starters).
Geoff has played in loads of tournaments with Crenshaw, and Alan and Michael have been interviewing him for years, but in this conversation they all heard things they had not before. Ben talks about the new 13th tee at Augusta National, and his memories of playing there as an amateur.
Geoff asks Ben about the secrets to putting, and you wont have to be a U.S. Open winner (as Geoff is) to understand the wisdom of what Ben says!
Ben speaks movingly about his love for the game, for The Country Club, for caddies, for courses. Need a good listen? Allow us to offer, “Need A 4th?!”
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0:00 Intro
2:16 Ben Crenshaw on the Sandbelt
8:16 Course Architecture
13:47 Changes to Augusta National
26:18 Playing “boring” courses
33:57 Medinah Country Club
43:43 Ben Hogan story
45:18 $250 Giveaway!
46:12 Unkept golf courses
52:27 Quirky tracks
1:04:47 The essence of Ben
1:06:57 Secrets to putting
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Feels So Good - Model Citizen
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![Need a 4th?! Ep. 5 with R.E.M. Bassist Mike Mills [FULL PODCAST]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Kuk-ZdTCqw8/mqdefault.jpg "Need a 4th?! Ep. 5 with R.E.M. Bassist Mike Mills [FULL PODCAST]
Great golf swings have a certain rhythm. The guest of this Need A 4th?! is an okay golfer with superior rhythm:
Mike Mills, the bassist for the iconic band R.E.M.
He riffs on golf, life and music with guitar enthusiast Geoff Ogilvy plus Michael Bamberger & Alan Shipnuck.
Thanks to our sponsor Linksoul, each week were giving away a $250 Linksoul gift card to a lucky listener of the Need A 4th?! podcast. To enter, subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment below!
0:00 Intro
4:45 Bassists vs. Guitarists
5:42 Golf and music
25:11 Golf on tour
31:24 $250 Giveaway!
32:47 Alchemy of success
1:01:13 Recap
For more visit: https://www.firepitcollective.com
TWITTER: https://twitter.com/firepitstories
INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/firepitcollective
THE FIRE PIT SHOP : https://firepitcollective.com/shop
THEME SONG:
Feels So Good - Model Citizen
SyncID - MB015R5J54BSQLG")
