Uploaded December 2024 | Updated September 2026, 2 hours ago
Nathan and I discuss the deep-seated human desire for retribution – and how to harness it for change.
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-10:18 Intro, Nathan Robinson of Current Affairs, on those that profit from healthcare, & how to handle injustices of healthcare
Chapter 2) 10:19-19:47 On suspected shooter Luigi Mangione, media coverage not talking about the underlying problems with the healthcare system, & why some try to justify the unjustifiable violence they choose to do
Chapter 3) 19:48-27:37 Moral justice in social justice movements, on Bernie Sanders, & on Socialism
Chapter 4) 27:38-38:59 Incremental change compared to immediate change in activism, Nathan’s personal and political journey, & on the Iraq War
Chapter 5) 39:00-48:31 Emotional effect of seeing footage of suffering, the positive vision of social justice movements, on Socialism and animal rights, & on moral philosophers and animal rights
Chapter 6) 48:32-58:33 The normalization of ignoring animal rights, how to undo the normalization of ignoring animal rights, & the rapid changes of social justice movements
Chapter 7) 58:34-1:01:41 How to respond to injustices of the system and institutions & follow Current Affairs & Nathan (links above & below)
Chapter 8) 1:01:42-1:01:58 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Books/Articles Mentioned:
“The Myth of American Idealism” by Nathan J. Robinson and Noam Chomsky
currentaffairs.org/news/why-you-should-read-the-myth-of-american-idealism
PNAS: “The global biomass of wild mammals”
pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2204892120
“Wild mammals make up only a few percent of the world’s mammals” by Hannah Ritchie
ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass
“A Political Movement for Animal Rights Is Coming” by Wayne Hsiung
currentaffairs.org/news/a-political-movement-for-animal-rights-is-coming
“'It's A Cookbook': Animal Welfare Cascades” by Cass Sunstein
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3866727
“The Strength of Weak Ties” by Mark Granovetter
jstor.org/stable/2776392
PDF link:
https://snap.stanford.edu/class/cs224w-readings/granovetter73weakties.pdf
“50 years on, Mark Granovetter’s ‘The Strength of Weak Ties’ is stronger than ever” by Melissa De Witte
https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2023/07/strength-weak-ties
“Threshold Models of Collective Behavior” by Mark Granovetter
https://sociology.stanford.edu/publications/threshold-models-collective-behavior
PDF link:
https://www2.cs.siu.edu/~hexmoor/classes/CS539-F10/Collective-Behavior.pdf
“Why You Should Be a Socialist” by Nathan J. Robinson
currentaffairs.org/news/2019/12/why-you-should-buy-why-you-should-be-a-socialist
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Follow Nathan:
nathanjrobinson.com
instagram.com/nathan___robinson
facebook.com/njrobinson
linkedin.com/in/nathan-robinson-751b211a
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https://www.linktr.ee/CurrentAffairs
currentaffairs.substack.com
https://x.com/CurAffairs
threads.net/@currentaffairsmag
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instagram.com/currentaffairsmag
linkedin.com/company/current-affairs-mag
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Nathan and I discuss the deep-seated human desire for retribution – and how to harness it for change.
—
Follow Nathan:
https://x.com/NathanJRobinson
Follow Current Affairs:
currentaffairs.org
patreon.com/currentaffairs
More links below.
—
The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org!
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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-10:18 Intro, Nathan Robinson of Current Affairs, on those that profit from healthcare, & how to handle injustices of healthcare
Chapter 2) 10:19-19:47 On suspected shooter Luigi Mangione, media coverage not talking about the underlying problems with the healthcare system, & why some try to justify the unjustifiable violence they choose to do
Chapter 3) 19:48-27:37 Moral justice in social justice movements, on Bernie Sanders, & on Socialism
Chapter 4) 27:38-38:59 Incremental change compared to immediate change in activism, Nathan’s personal and political journey, & on the Iraq War
Chapter 5) 39:00-48:31 Emotional effect of seeing footage of suffering, the positive vision of social justice movements, on Socialism and animal rights, & on moral philosophers and animal rights
Chapter 6) 48:32-58:33 The normalization of ignoring animal rights, how to undo the normalization of ignoring animal rights, & the rapid changes of social justice movements
Chapter 7) 58:34-1:01:41 How to respond to injustices of the system and institutions & follow Current Affairs & Nathan (links above & below)
Chapter 8) 1:01:42-1:01:58 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis
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Books/Articles Mentioned:
“The Myth of American Idealism” by Nathan J. Robinson and Noam Chomsky
currentaffairs.org/news/why-you-should-read-the-myth-of-american-idealism
PNAS: “The global biomass of wild mammals”
pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2204892120
“Wild mammals make up only a few percent of the world’s mammals” by Hannah Ritchie
ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass
“A Political Movement for Animal Rights Is Coming” by Wayne Hsiung
currentaffairs.org/news/a-political-movement-for-animal-rights-is-coming
“'It's A Cookbook': Animal Welfare Cascades” by Cass Sunstein
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3866727
“The Strength of Weak Ties” by Mark Granovetter
jstor.org/stable/2776392
PDF link:
https://snap.stanford.edu/class/cs224w-readings/granovetter73weakties.pdf
“50 years on, Mark Granovetter’s ‘The Strength of Weak Ties’ is stronger than ever” by Melissa De Witte
https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2023/07/strength-weak-ties
“Threshold Models of Collective Behavior” by Mark Granovetter
https://sociology.stanford.edu/publications/threshold-models-collective-behavior
PDF link:
https://www2.cs.siu.edu/~hexmoor/classes/CS539-F10/Collective-Behavior.pdf
“Why You Should Be a Socialist” by Nathan J. Robinson
currentaffairs.org/news/2019/12/why-you-should-buy-why-you-should-be-a-socialist
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Follow Nathan:
nathanjrobinson.com
instagram.com/nathan___robinson
facebook.com/njrobinson
linkedin.com/in/nathan-robinson-751b211a
Follow Current Affairs:
https://www.linktr.ee/CurrentAffairs
currentaffairs.substack.com
https://x.com/CurAffairs
threads.net/@currentaffairsmag
tiktok.com/@current.affairs.mag
instagram.com/currentaffairsmag
linkedin.com/company/current-affairs-mag
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