They Called Her a Bioterrorist. She Won Them Over, Anyways. (with Leah Garcés) (Ep.37) @WayneHsiung_
They Called Her a Bioterrorist. She Won Them Over, Anyways. (with Leah Garcés) (Ep.37)  @WayneHsiung_
Uploaded September 2024 | Updated September 2026, 1 hour ago
Leah Garcés has convinced numerous factory farms to give up the business of killing animals and transition to plant-based agriculture. And shares the secrets to this remarkable work in this conversation.
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More on Leah’s #books:
“Transfarmation: The Movement to Free Us from Factory Farming”(new release on 9/17/2024):
penguinrandomhouse.com/books/757628/transfarmation-by-leah-garces
“GRILLED: Turning Adversaries into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry” (released on 9/3/2019): mercyforanimals.org/grilled

Follow Leah, @TheTransfarmationProject , and @mercyforanimals - links below.

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Chapters:
Chapter 1) 00:00-18:38 Intro, how Leah builds relationships with adversaries, meeting farmer Craig Watts & others in the industry, & communicating about the system

Chapter 2) 18:39-29:45 Meditation & self-care practices, Leah going on a silent meditation retreat, & finding perspective as an activist

Chapter 2) 29:46-36:00 Leah’s emotional journey as an activist & advice to other activists

Chapter 3) 36:01-51:52 Beginning The Transfarmation Project (link below) & farmers stuck in the system

Chapter 4) 51:53-1:01:56 Farmers finding The Transfarmation Project, communication with farmers, & activists’ self-judgment & judging other

Chapter 5) 1:01:57-1:14:26 Leah bearing witness to chickens on farms/warehouses, Leah meeting slaughterhouse workers, moral injuries of workers, & the public view of domesticated animals

Chapter 6) 1:14:27-1:18:24 Empathy for farmers trapped in the animal agriculture system

Chapter 7) 1:18:25-1:24:47 The Faaborg Family transfarmation from pig farming to mushroom farming in Iowa (NYT article link below), & Wayne’s last non-vegan meal

Chapter 8) 1:24:48-1:27:03 Final thoughts: Leah advice to activists, buy Leah’s book (links below), & follow The Transfarmation Project & Mercy for Animals (links below)

Chapter 9) 1:27:04-1:27:20 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis

NYT article: “Life After Factory Farming: 'The Longer They're Out, the Happier They Are.’”
nytimes.com/2024/08/29/climate/factory-farming-transfarmation-project.html

Follow Leah:
Website: leahgarces.com
Instagram: instagram.com/leahgarces
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Facebook: facebook.com/leah.garces
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/leahgarces

Follow The Transfarmation Project:
Website: thetransfarmationproject.org
Links: https://linkin.bio/thetransfarmationproject/
Instagram: instagram.com/thetransfarmationproject
YouTube: youtube.com/@TheTransfarmationProject
XTwitter: https://x.com/transfarmations
Facebook: facebook.com/TheTransfarmationProject
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thetransfarmationproject

Follow Mercy for Animals:
Website: MercyForAnimals.org
Facebook: facebook.com/mercyforanimals
Instagram: instagram.com/mercyforanimals
XTwitter: https://x.com/MercyForAnimals
TikTok: tiktok.com/@mercyforanimals_us
YouTube: youtube.com/@mercyforanimals
Threads: threads.net/@mercyforanimals
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/mercy-for-animals

Books Mentioned:
“The Body Keeps the Score” by Bessel van der Kolk
“Why We Sleep” by Matthew Walker
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