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As the year winds down, Founder’s Mentality: The CEO Sessions takes a festive turn. In this special holiday bonus episode, host Jimmy reflects on the season’s conversations with global leaders, each sharing a lesson they bring home to their families.
This episode gathers a wreath of insights about resilience, curiosity, and gratitude. You’ll hear from CEOs who’ve learned to sweat the details, embrace hard choices, love the ride, and simply say “thank you.” Whether you’re listening on the way home for the holidays or by the fire with friends, it’s a reminder that the best leadership lessons often start at home, and that bringing energy, empathy, and optimism to all we do might just be the greatest gift of all.
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Hard-Earned Lessons from CEOs - Blog (bain.com/insights/hard-earned-lessons-from-ceos-interactive/)
Five Keys to Navigating Organizations Through Turbulence - Video (bain.com/insights/five-keys-to-navigating-organizations-through-turbulence-video/)
Maintaining Relevance Amid Uncertainty - Video (bain.com/insights/maintaining-relevance-amid-uncertainty-video/)
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About Founders Mentality
Founder’s Mentality: The CEO Sessions is a leadership podcast hosted by executive advisor and bestselling author Jimmy Allen.
Each episode features candid conversations with top CEOs, from Audible to Walmart to AWS, as well as artists, comedians, and other unconventional thinkers. Together, they share the lessons that shaped their growth, the “aha” moments that redefined their work, and the surprising ways reinvention happens at every level.
Whether you’re a CEO, an aspiring leader, or simply curious about leadership, influence, and business at scale, this podcast will challenge and inspire you, one story at a time.
About the Host:
Jimmy Allen is an Advisory Partner at Bain & Company with over 35 years’ experience advising leading organizations. He’s the author of multiple best-selling books on growth and leadership and the host and founder of Bain’s Global CEO Community Forum. Jimmy is a regular speaker at global business events, including the World Economic Forum, and serves on the Botswana Economic Advisory Council. Outside of consulting, Jimmy started his own record label (Abubilla Music) in 2008 and supports Singing Wells, a project dedicated to preserving Kenyan village music.
Bain & Company:
Founder’s Mentality: The CEO Sessions is brought to you by Bain & Company, a global consultancy trusted by the world’s most influential business leaders. With decades of experience guiding organizations through growth, transformation, and leadership development, Bain’s executive insights offer what it takes to lead at scale.
As the year winds down, Founder’s Mentality: The CEO Sessions takes a festive turn. In this special holiday bonus episode, host Jimmy reflects on the season’s conversations with global leaders, each sharing a lesson they bring home to their families.
This episode gathers a wreath of insights about resilience, curiosity, and gratitude. You’ll hear from CEOs who’ve learned to sweat the details, embrace hard choices, love the ride, and simply say “thank you.” Whether you’re listening on the way home for the holidays or by the fire with friends, it’s a reminder that the best leadership lessons often start at home, and that bringing energy, empathy, and optimism to all we do might just be the greatest gift of all.
Join the Conversation:
To learn more check out the Founders Mentality website or our CEO Insights hub: bain.com/founders-mentality
bain.com/insights/topics/ceo-agenda
Learn More:
Hard-Earned Lessons from CEOs - Blog (bain.com/insights/hard-earned-lessons-from-ceos-interactive/)
Five Keys to Navigating Organizations Through Turbulence - Video (bain.com/insights/five-keys-to-navigating-organizations-through-turbulence-video/)
Maintaining Relevance Amid Uncertainty - Video (bain.com/insights/maintaining-relevance-amid-uncertainty-video/)
Bain & Company LinkedIn (linkedin.com/company/bain-and-company/)
Bain & Company X (https://x.com/BainandCompany)
Jimmy Allen LinkedIn (linkedin.com/in/james-allen-3442b/)
About Founders Mentality
Founder’s Mentality: The CEO Sessions is a leadership podcast hosted by executive advisor and bestselling author Jimmy Allen.
Each episode features candid conversations with top CEOs, from Audible to Walmart to AWS, as well as artists, comedians, and other unconventional thinkers. Together, they share the lessons that shaped their growth, the “aha” moments that redefined their work, and the surprising ways reinvention happens at every level.
Whether you’re a CEO, an aspiring leader, or simply curious about leadership, influence, and business at scale, this podcast will challenge and inspire you, one story at a time.
About the Host:
Jimmy Allen is an Advisory Partner at Bain & Company with over 35 years’ experience advising leading organizations. He’s the author of multiple best-selling books on growth and leadership and the host and founder of Bain’s Global CEO Community Forum. Jimmy is a regular speaker at global business events, including the World Economic Forum, and serves on the Botswana Economic Advisory Council. Outside of consulting, Jimmy started his own record label (Abubilla Music) in 2008 and supports Singing Wells, a project dedicated to preserving Kenyan village music.
Bain & Company:
Founder’s Mentality: The CEO Sessions is brought to you by Bain & Company, a global consultancy trusted by the world’s most influential business leaders. With decades of experience guiding organizations through growth, transformation, and leadership development, Bain’s executive insights offer what it takes to lead at scale.

![Jacqueline Novogratz, Acumen: Start Before Youre Ready
What are the costs of not daring to make a change?
Jacqueline Novogratz is the Founder & CEO of Acumen, an organisation that invests patient capital in enterprises working to reduce poverty around the world. In 2021, she took a $250 million risk when she set out to provide electricity to 75 million people in regions of sub-Saharan Africa that had a 45% electrification rate or below. It paid off.
Join host Jimmy Allen of Bain & Company and Jacqueline as they discuss what we can learn from creative risk taking, how to balance socioeconomic tensions without compromising the mission, and how transforming our mentality from “what if?” to “what if I don’t?” can open the door for positive change.
Jacqueline and Jimmy emphasise the value of asking ‘why’ when navigating complexity as a leader. How can we ensure that we not only remember our ‘why’, but also that it is worth remembering in the first place?
This is a conversation about embracing complexity, the power of asking ‘why’, and daring to take risks in the pursuit of positive change.
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EPISODE CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:21 The billion dollar plan
02:45 Why Acumen started in the hardest location
03:58 Securing the first funding - a $10 million bet on Jacqueline
05:51 Starting and letting the work teach them
08:37 Getting smarter through creative risk taking
11:56 How Jacqueline balances her vision with specificity
12:30 Using deep listening as a tool to understand complexity
15:33 Closing allows Acumen to reflect on their ‘why’
16:37 Embracing complexity is what sets Acumen apart
18:30 What does it take to master complexity?
19:03 How rephrasing the question reminds us ‘why’
19:36 What is Acumen’s ‘why’
20:34 The importance of having the right ‘why’
22:11 How Jacqueline approaches complexity
23:07 Embracing tension, rejecting compromise
24:40 Advice for ambitious young leaders
26:19 Jacqueline’s message
LINKS
A Case for Complexity - Jimmy Allen - Blog [https://tinyurl.com/acaseforcomplexity]
Bain & Company LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/bain-and-company/]
Bain & Company X [https://x.com/BainandCompany]
Jimmy Allen LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-allen-3442b/]
Jacqueline Novogratz LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqueline-novogratz/]
ABOUT THE HOST
Jimmy Allen is an Advisory Partner at Bain & Company with over 35 years’ experience advising leading organizations. He’s the author of multiple best-selling books on growth and leadership and the host and founder of Bain’s Global CEO Community Forum. Jimmy is a regular speaker at global business events, including the World Economic Forum, and serves on the Botswana Economic Advisory Council. Outside of consulting, Jimmy started his own record label Abubilla Music in 2008 and supports Singing Wells, a project dedicated to preserving Kenyan village music. Jacqueline Novogratz, Acumen: Start Before Youre Ready](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/elkdEJpLihQ/mqdefault.jpg)








