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Did Paul invent Christianity as we know it? In this explosive MythVision discussion, Richard Carrier, Dennis MacDonald, and Derek Lambert dive deep into one of the most controversial debates in biblical scholarship.
Was Jesus a historical figure, or did Paul transform a small Jewish movement into a mystical salvation religion centered around visions and revelations? The conversation explores mythicism, the silence of Paul, the rivalry between James and Paul, the origins of the Eucharist, Dionysian parallels, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and Robert Eisenman’s radical theories about the early Jesus movement.
Topics include:
- Why Paul rarely discusses Jesus’ earthly life
- The mythicist argument explained
- Richard Carrier’s critique of Eisenman
- The James vs Paul conflict
- Early Christianity and Roman politics
- Eucharist parallels with Dionysus
- Visions, revelations, and apostolic authority
- The origins of the Gospels
- Historical Jesus vs Mythic Jesus
This is one of the deepest and most intense conversations MythVision has ever hosted on the origins of Christianity.
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Show Dr. Richard Carrier some love and help support his work.
richardcarrier.info This has links to follow Richards Twitter and Facebook and Patreon and so on. He survives on patronage by his blogging at Patreon and welcomes all the help there he can get at patreon.com/DrRichardCarrier . His books are all available in print, digital, and audio at richardcarrier.info/BooksbyRichardCarrier.html . He also teaches affordable online courses in history and philosophy at http://secularactivism.org. Other ways to help and support his work are listed at richardcarrier.info/support . Also, check out his Publicity page: richardcarrier.info/publicity
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mythvisionpodcast.com/dss
Sign up for Dr. Robyn Faith Walsh’s Course, “Unforgettable Footprints of the Pauline Legacy” - -
https://mythvisionpodcast.com/paulsle...
Sign up for Dr. Dennis MacDonald’s Course, “Reading the Gospels with One Eye on Greek Poetry” - -
https://mythvisionpodcast.com/homeric...
Sign up for Dr. James Tabor’s Course, "Creating Jesus: Why Mark’s Gospel Was Forgotten?" - -
https://www.mythvisionpodcast.com/fir...
Sign up for Dr. Dale C. Allison Jr's Course, “The Quest for The Historical Jesus” - -
https://www.mythvisionpodcast.com/jes...
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Did Paul invent Christianity as we know it? In this explosive MythVision discussion, Richard Carrier, Dennis MacDonald, and Derek Lambert dive deep into one of the most controversial debates in biblical scholarship.
Was Jesus a historical figure, or did Paul transform a small Jewish movement into a mystical salvation religion centered around visions and revelations? The conversation explores mythicism, the silence of Paul, the rivalry between James and Paul, the origins of the Eucharist, Dionysian parallels, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and Robert Eisenman’s radical theories about the early Jesus movement.
Topics include:
- Why Paul rarely discusses Jesus’ earthly life
- The mythicist argument explained
- Richard Carrier’s critique of Eisenman
- The James vs Paul conflict
- Early Christianity and Roman politics
- Eucharist parallels with Dionysus
- Visions, revelations, and apostolic authority
- The origins of the Gospels
- Historical Jesus vs Mythic Jesus
This is one of the deepest and most intense conversations MythVision has ever hosted on the origins of Christianity.
==========================================
Show Dr. Richard Carrier some love and help support his work.
richardcarrier.info This has links to follow Richards Twitter and Facebook and Patreon and so on. He survives on patronage by his blogging at Patreon and welcomes all the help there he can get at patreon.com/DrRichardCarrier . His books are all available in print, digital, and audio at richardcarrier.info/BooksbyRichardCarrier.html . He also teaches affordable online courses in history and philosophy at http://secularactivism.org. Other ways to help and support his work are listed at richardcarrier.info/support . Also, check out his Publicity page: richardcarrier.info/publicity
===========================================
Get all of Dennis R. MacDOnalds Books Here 👇
amazon.com/Dennis-Ronald-MacDonald/e/B001HMMJHM%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
📺 Our second channel
@mythvisionTV
============================
FIND ALL LINKS HERE 👉 https://linktr.ee/mythvision
============================
RECOMMENDED ONLINE COURSES HERE
👉👉 Checkout MVP Courses to find new and upcoming online courses:
mvp-courses.com
Sign up for Dr. James Tabor’s Course, “The Quest for the Historical Paul: Apostle or Apostate?” - -
https://mythvisionpodcast.com/histori...
Sign up for Dr. Kara Cooney’s Course, “Ancient Egyptian Cosmogony and Cosmology” - -
https://mythvisionpodcast.com/egyptia...
Sign up for Dr. Robyn Faith Walsh’s Course, “The Gospel Masterclass” - -
mythvisionpodcast.com/gospels
Sign up for Dr. James Tabor’s Course, “Jesus and The Dead Sea Scrolls” - -
mythvisionpodcast.com/dss
Sign up for Dr. Robyn Faith Walsh’s Course, “Unforgettable Footprints of the Pauline Legacy” - -
https://mythvisionpodcast.com/paulsle...
Sign up for Dr. Dennis MacDonald’s Course, “Reading the Gospels with One Eye on Greek Poetry” - -
https://mythvisionpodcast.com/homeric...
Sign up for Dr. James Tabor’s Course, "Creating Jesus: Why Mark’s Gospel Was Forgotten?" - -
https://www.mythvisionpodcast.com/fir...
Sign up for Dr. Dale C. Allison Jr's Course, “The Quest for The Historical Jesus” - -
https://www.mythvisionpodcast.com/jes...
============================
GET RECOMMENDED BOOKS HERE: 👉 amzn.to/35FqNYf
============================
Please consider supporting MythVision's work by joining our Patreon or contributing a one-time donation:
Patreon: 👉 / mythvision
Paypal: 👉 paypal.me/dereklambert7 - - @dereklambert7
Cashapp: 👉 $rewiredaddiction
Venmo: 👉 venmo.com/Derek-Lambert-9 - - @Derek-Lambert-9
Facebook Stars: fb.com/stars
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CONTACT ME
Website: 👉 mythvisionpodcast.com
Email MythVision: 👉 mythvisionpodcast@gmail.com
Facebook Page: 👉 / mythvision
Facebook Group: 👉 / thewaterboyzradio
Twitter X: 👉 https://x.com/DerekPodcast - - @DerekPodcast
TikTok: 👉 / mythvision
Instagram: 👉 / dereklambert_7
Discord: 👉 / discord
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LISTEN TO THE PODCAST HERE:
🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gf3XMe...
🎧 Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
🎧 Castbox: https://castbox.fm/vh/6551369
🎧 Pocket Casts: https://pca.st/61670kid
🎧 iHeartRadio: iheart.com/podcast/271777389
#RichardCarrier #DennisMacDonald #MythVision
