Uploaded September 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 minutes ago
Most people believe in Jesus as a savior who shared parables, performed miracles and died for our sins during his brief life.
But is that really true?
For the longest time, Paul had tried to connect with Jesus yet came up empty until recently when his soul led him to Jesus, the man not of the Bible.
Paul and Sean O’Laoire examine the life of Jesus from very different and complementary perspectives that may encourage you to reconsider what you think about myth and the Bible this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Sean at his Spirits in Spacesuits website ( spiritsinspacesuits.com ). Find him on social media via Facebook ( facebook.com/Companions-on-the-Journey-1394330427541054 ), Instagram ( instagram.com/spiritsinspacesuits ) and YouTube ( youtube.com/user/spiritsinspacesuits ).
0:00 Intro
11:05 Epistemology, ontology and cosmology.
15:28 Was Jesus a product of Jesus mythicism (Christ myth theory)?
19:38 What modern historians DO agree on about the life of Jesus.
31:08 The difference between wisdom and knowledge.
34:56 Mythish: Sacred wisdom shared in story form.
40:20 The use of metaphor.
52:09 “When power becomes available, morality goes out the window.”
1:05:30 Prosopon.
1:17:27 A cohort of souls.
1:27:11 Sean is one of few people Paul thinks about the most, especially when he gets very irritated at Christianity.
1:38:13 Paul spent many years tracking Jesus and only experienced emptiness, until he recently connected with Jesus, the man not of the Bible.
1:42:54 What really happened to Jesus after the crucifixion.
1:45:35 What is evil?
1:46:34 Did Jesus practice a religion?
1:49:45 How Paul brought alchemy into his teachings.
1:54:16 Awe.
2:01:47 Why one minister taught kids at his church to fear God.
2:11:13 “We volunteer to be here right now.”
Listen to Paul's conversation with Sean O'Laoire and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/413-was-jesus-a-myth-with-sean-olaoire
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Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music
Most people believe in Jesus as a savior who shared parables, performed miracles and died for our sins during his brief life.
But is that really true?
For the longest time, Paul had tried to connect with Jesus yet came up empty until recently when his soul led him to Jesus, the man not of the Bible.
Paul and Sean O’Laoire examine the life of Jesus from very different and complementary perspectives that may encourage you to reconsider what you think about myth and the Bible this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Sean at his Spirits in Spacesuits website ( spiritsinspacesuits.com ). Find him on social media via Facebook ( facebook.com/Companions-on-the-Journey-1394330427541054 ), Instagram ( instagram.com/spiritsinspacesuits ) and YouTube ( youtube.com/user/spiritsinspacesuits ).
0:00 Intro
11:05 Epistemology, ontology and cosmology.
15:28 Was Jesus a product of Jesus mythicism (Christ myth theory)?
19:38 What modern historians DO agree on about the life of Jesus.
31:08 The difference between wisdom and knowledge.
34:56 Mythish: Sacred wisdom shared in story form.
40:20 The use of metaphor.
52:09 “When power becomes available, morality goes out the window.”
1:05:30 Prosopon.
1:17:27 A cohort of souls.
1:27:11 Sean is one of few people Paul thinks about the most, especially when he gets very irritated at Christianity.
1:38:13 Paul spent many years tracking Jesus and only experienced emptiness, until he recently connected with Jesus, the man not of the Bible.
1:42:54 What really happened to Jesus after the crucifixion.
1:45:35 What is evil?
1:46:34 Did Jesus practice a religion?
1:49:45 How Paul brought alchemy into his teachings.
1:54:16 Awe.
2:01:47 Why one minister taught kids at his church to fear God.
2:11:13 “We volunteer to be here right now.”
Listen to Paul's conversation with Sean O'Laoire and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/413-was-jesus-a-myth-with-sean-olaoire
Thanks to our awesome sponsors!
• Paleovalley paleovalley.com/chek15 (save 15% on your first purchase)
• Organifi organifi.com/chek20 (save 20% on your purchase by using the code CHEK20 at checkout)
• BIOptimizers bioptimizers.com/spiritgym (save an extra 15% on your purchase by using the code PAUL15 at checkout)
• CHEK Institute chekinstitute.com
We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.
Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music
