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How does one orient towards virtue and virtuosity? And, why understanding the concept matters so much is precisely what is explored in this video and to be enacted during our upcoming event. Join us as John, along with his friends and co-leads, delves into these profound ideas and how immersive experiences play their role in the process.
Our 4-Day *in-person* Experiential Intensive, "Virtuosity in Action: A Dance with Knowing and Being," promises to be an experiential adventure, offering up countless opportunities to reflect and/or reframe ourselves, others and the world through the power of collective intelligence across the domains of Dialogue, Imaginal, Mindfulness and Embodiment work.
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How does one orient towards virtue and virtuosity? And, why understanding the concept matters so much is precisely what is explored in this video and to be enacted during our upcoming event. Join us as John, along with his friends and co-leads, delves into these profound ideas and how immersive experiences play their role in the process.
Our 4-Day *in-person* Experiential Intensive, "Virtuosity in Action: A Dance with Knowing and Being," promises to be an experiential adventure, offering up countless opportunities to reflect and/or reframe ourselves, others and the world through the power of collective intelligence across the domains of Dialogue, Imaginal, Mindfulness and Embodiment work.
Dates: May 5th to 8th
Location: One King West Hotel, Toronto
Full Details & Registration Here - awakentomeaning.com/may2025intensive
Early Bird Pricing Ends Friday, April 4th!


![Wisdom in the Age of AI: A Philosophical Quest with Vervaeke, Pageau, and Schindler
Explore the complex relationship between AI and human insight in this thought-provoking episode with John Vervaeke, Ken Lowry, Jonathan Pageau, and DC Schindler. While deeply engaging with the scientific and philosophical aspects of artificial intelligence, the panel discusses its broad implications for our understanding of consciousness, culture, and rational thought. Key points include AIs challenge to our self-perception, its potential to reshape societal norms, and the critical examination of whether AI can approach human-like wisdom and ethical reasoning. The dialogue invites listeners to contemplate AIs role in redefining human rationality, wisdom, and the foundational structures of our societies.
Ken Lowry is a dedicated explorer of the good, true, and beautiful through his channel Climbing Mt Sophia, focusing on wisdom and virtue dialogues. His work fosters key collaborations, enhancing discussions on spirituality and philosophy.
Jonathan Pageau, a French Canadian icon carver and speaker, examines symbolic patterns to reconnect modern life with traditional arts, advocating for the re-enchantment of our contemporary world through ancient wisdom.
DC Schindler, a philosopher and professor, delves into metaphysics, ethics, and cultural philosophy, examining classical philosophys impact on modern challenges, including AI, and its influence on culture and understanding.
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Ken Lowry:
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Jonathan Pageau:
Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/
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DC Schindler:
Website: https://www.johnpaulii.edu/academics/faculty/d-c-schindler/
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Books, Articles, Publications, and Videos
AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist - John Vervaeke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A RdKiDbz4&list=PLND1JCRq8Vui2YOOfrxbeRwJk5jZPmAth&index=1
Mentoring the Machines: Orientation - Part One: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne https://www.amazon.com/Mentoring-Machines-Orientation-Artificially-Intelligent-ebook/dp/B0CBXKL7P1
Mentoring the Machines: Origins - Part 2: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CH8W8XLF
Divination and Human Nature: A Cognitive History of Intuition in Classical Antiquity - Peter Struck https://www.amazon.com/Divination-Human-Nature-Cognitive-Intuition/dp/0691183457/
Quotes
I do not honestly see how it is possible for humans to make something that is not derivative of themselves... the idea that these things could not be either ways to increase certain peoples power or parasites on our own consciousness seems to me not conceivable. - Jonathan Pageau [00:24:22]
One of the problems that Im seeing is that a lot of this is motivated by economic, by greed, by the capacity to be economically superior to other companies... what is actually driving AI is something like mammon. - Jonathan Pageau [00:21:39]
I wonder whether its possible to be intelligent without first being alive. Theres something about the nature of a living thing that allows intelligence to emerge. Intelligence is a way of being before its a way of acting and is analogous to what it means to be alive rather than just carry out functions that look like life. - DC Schindler [00:42:59]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Opening Remarks: AIs Scope and Impact
[00:03:00] - Defining AI: Weak, Strong, and AGI
[00:18:30] - Ethical and Philosophical AI Considerations
[00:32:35] - Integrating Wisdom with AI Development
[00:41:40] - Distinguishing Intelligence and Rationality in AI
[00:51:48] - Aligning Humanity to AI-Driven Cultural Shifts
[01:23:00] - Consciousness and Technology: Extending the Human Mind
[01:42:23] - Speculating AIs Future Directions
[01:57:44] - Final Thoughts: Reflecting on AIs Complexity Wisdom in the Age of AI: A Philosophical Quest with Vervaeke, Pageau, and Schindler](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r3VXcPK7fG8/mqdefault.jpg)







