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James Filler is a philosopher, theologian, and leading voice in metaphysics and post-Cartesian thought, specializing in substance ontology, the meaning crisis, and relational models of reason. With a PhD in philosophy and expertise in ancient and contemporary ontology, Filler is the author of Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being Relation as Ontological Ground and Substance Ontology and the Crisis of Reason. His work traces the genealogical roots of modern nihilism and skepticism while advancing a powerful case for relationality, participation, and non-discursive forms of knowing. As a teacher and scholar, he brings clarity and compassion to some of the most pressing philosophical and spiritual questions of our time.
James Filler:
https://uga.academia.edu/JamesFiller
amazon.com/Substance-Ontology-Crisis-Reason-Filler/dp/3031754115
Each quarter, John engages in thought-provoking extended conversations with a leading expert in psychology, philosophy, and spirituality. Each season offers a unique exploration, bringing together their diverse fields of knowledge to create fresh insights and understanding. These in-depth discussions, chaptered for your convenience, offer nuanced perspectives and integrative approaches to navigating our complex world.
The first episode is free and publicly available. To follow the rest of the season as well as gain access to previous discussions, you can sign up at the Beta Tier (and above) on The Lectern lectern.teachable.com/p/lectern-lounge
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John Vervaeke is joined by philosopher and theologian James Filler to expose the hidden roots of the modern meaning crisis. Together, they trace a powerful philosophical arc from ancient substance ontology to today’s widespread nihilism, skepticism, and isolation. James reveals how centuries of prioritizing “being” over “relation” have led to an inward collapse of reason, relationality, and the self. John and James unpack how non-discursive knowing, theosis, and participatory truth can restore wholeness beyond representational models of mind. They explore the role of liturgy, love, and vertical epistemology as practices that reawaken our connection to what is most real. This Lectern is a profound inquiry into what it means to become truly human—and how we might recover the sacred not through belief, but through transformation.
Notes:
00:00 Welcome to The Lectern
00:30 James Filler's Work
02:30 Impact of Substance Ontology
07:00 Cartesian Dualism and Its Consequences
10:30 Critique of Modern Rationality
13:30 Relationality and Knowledge
16:00 The Role of Non-Discursive Reasoning
24:00 Ethics and Becoming Truly Human
40:30 Participatory Knowing and Liturgy
42:00 Secularism and Substance Ontology
44:30 The Buffered Self and Modernity
48:00 Self-Transcendence and Theosis
51:00 Critique of Substance Ontology
01:00:00 The Role of Liturgy in Modern Churches
Previous episode: youtu.be/wx6C3neSD78
James Filler is a philosopher, theologian, and leading voice in metaphysics and post-Cartesian thought, specializing in substance ontology, the meaning crisis, and relational models of reason. With a PhD in philosophy and expertise in ancient and contemporary ontology, Filler is the author of Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being Relation as Ontological Ground and Substance Ontology and the Crisis of Reason. His work traces the genealogical roots of modern nihilism and skepticism while advancing a powerful case for relationality, participation, and non-discursive forms of knowing. As a teacher and scholar, he brings clarity and compassion to some of the most pressing philosophical and spiritual questions of our time.
James Filler:
https://uga.academia.edu/JamesFiller
amazon.com/Substance-Ontology-Crisis-Reason-Filler/dp/3031754115
Each quarter, John engages in thought-provoking extended conversations with a leading expert in psychology, philosophy, and spirituality. Each season offers a unique exploration, bringing together their diverse fields of knowledge to create fresh insights and understanding. These in-depth discussions, chaptered for your convenience, offer nuanced perspectives and integrative approaches to navigating our complex world.
The first episode is free and publicly available. To follow the rest of the season as well as gain access to previous discussions, you can sign up at the Beta Tier (and above) on The Lectern lectern.teachable.com/p/lectern-lounge
If you would like to donate purely out of goodwill to support John’s work, please consider joining our Patreon. patreon.com/johnvervaeke
The Vervaeke Foundation is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. vervaekefoundation.org
If you would like to learn and engage regularly in practices that are informed, developed and endorsed by John and his work, visit Awaken to Meaning’s calendar to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. awakentomeaning.com/join-practice
John Vervaeke:
johnvervaeke.com
twitter.com/vervaeke_john
youtube.com/@johnvervaeke
patreon.com/johnvervaeke
John Vervaeke is joined by philosopher and theologian James Filler to expose the hidden roots of the modern meaning crisis. Together, they trace a powerful philosophical arc from ancient substance ontology to today’s widespread nihilism, skepticism, and isolation. James reveals how centuries of prioritizing “being” over “relation” have led to an inward collapse of reason, relationality, and the self. John and James unpack how non-discursive knowing, theosis, and participatory truth can restore wholeness beyond representational models of mind. They explore the role of liturgy, love, and vertical epistemology as practices that reawaken our connection to what is most real. This Lectern is a profound inquiry into what it means to become truly human—and how we might recover the sacred not through belief, but through transformation.
Notes:
00:00 Welcome to The Lectern
00:30 James Filler's Work
02:30 Impact of Substance Ontology
07:00 Cartesian Dualism and Its Consequences
10:30 Critique of Modern Rationality
13:30 Relationality and Knowledge
16:00 The Role of Non-Discursive Reasoning
24:00 Ethics and Becoming Truly Human
40:30 Participatory Knowing and Liturgy
42:00 Secularism and Substance Ontology
44:30 The Buffered Self and Modernity
48:00 Self-Transcendence and Theosis
51:00 Critique of Substance Ontology
01:00:00 The Role of Liturgy in Modern Churches










![Illuminating the Interplay: Emotion, Physicality, and the Path to Healing
In this episode of “Voices with Vervaeke,” John Vervaeke, alongside Terri Dentry and Aspasia Karageorge, delves into the complex interplay between emotions, chronic pain, and the mechanisms of healing within the framework of Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy (ISTDP). Through a rich dialogue, the discussion unfolds to explore the intricate ways in which pain serves not only as a physical experience but as a profound emotional and psychological defense mechanism, obscuring underlying emotional disturbances and traumas. The conversation navigates through the socialization of pain, the pivotal role of emotional awareness in healing, and the transformative potential of ISTDP in restoring agency and empowerment to individuals. By bridging emotional and physical healing, this episode illuminates the holistic approach necessary for comprehensive therapy, emphasizing the integration of diverse therapeutic practices. The engaging discourse provides compelling insights into therapys transformative power, underscoring the importance of understanding and integrating our emotional landscapes.
Bios and Links:
Terri Dentry is a distinguished PhD graduate in interprofessional practice, dedicated to bridging the gap between traditional medical practices and holistic wellness approaches. With a keen focus on patient empowerment and integrated health solutions, Terri advocates for a healthcare model that values dialogical reasoning and personal journey understanding, aiming to transform patient care into a collaborative, multidimensional experience. If you’d like to reach out to Terri to share your own personal story or thoughts, please feel free to email her at terri@thinkred.com.au.
Aspasia Karageorge, DCP, is a seasoned clinical psychologist with advanced degrees from the University of Sydney and the University of Otago. She serves as a Research Associate at the Brain and Mind Centre of the University of Sydney, where she focuses on qualitative research in novel mental health interventions and medical education. To explore more about her extensive work and insights, visit her website at https://www.aspasiapsychology.com/siapsychology.com or follow her on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3ATJzuK4STHGSuv4m8m_uw . For details on her clinical services and to book consultations, visit her private practice at https://sydneycitypsychology.com.au/.
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Resources:
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Quotes:
ISTDP stands for Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy, a therapy developed by Dr. Davanloo in the 60s. Essentially, it views chronic pain as a defense against emotional experience. - Aspasia Karageorge [00:06:00]
Socialization of pain and how our narrative bias is driving a lot of this... the narrative bias coming from the early childhood experiences, and that providing the bias to what we are thinking, giving us a filter of how we are then relating to these things as we go forward in life. - Terri Dentry [00:38:04]
“Modeling goes deeper in the brain than propositions.” - John Vervaeke [00:59:20]
Glossary of Terms:
ISTDP: Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy, a form of therapy focusing on emotional experience.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction: Unpacking Emotions, Chronic Pain, and Rationality in Therapy
00:10:00 - Exploring the Socialization of Pain and Emotions Role
00:15:00 - ISTDP and the Emotional Landscape: Understanding Pain as Emotional Distraction
00:24:20 - Restoring Agency and Emotional Insight: Pathways to Healing in Psychotherapy
00:43:00 - Integrating Therapies: Towards a Holistic Approach to Emotional and Physical Healing
01:07:20 - Conclusion: Embracing Complexity: Transformative Insights from ISTDP Therapy Illuminating the Interplay: Emotion, Physicality, and the Path to Healing](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vC5unlE8g18/mqdefault.jpg)