Tokens vs. Equity, Lighters Robinhood Perps Deal, & Trump - The Chopping Block @UnchainedCrypto
Tokens vs. Equity, Lighters Robinhood Perps Deal, & Trump - The Chopping Block  @UnchainedCrypto
Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Vladimir Novakovski of Lighter joins the Chopping Block crew to untangle one of crypto's oldest debates: what happens when tokens and equity coexist. The gang digs into the Venice/VVV controversy, breaks down Lighter's new Perps integration with Robinhood Chain and the fragmentation questions it raises, dissects the wild BonkDAO governance exploit, and reacts to the eye-popping $2.4 billion in crypto income disclosed in Trump's financial filings.

Show highlights
πŸ”Ή Haseeb breaks down why Venice's VVV token is not equity and not a Uniswap style governance token in disguise
πŸ”Ή Vlad explains how Lighter's programmatic buybacks and single C corp structure align token holders and equity holders
πŸ”Ή The gang debates Delaware fiduciary law, shareholder primacy, and what happens when buyback capital runs dry
πŸ”Ή Vlad lays out the vision of tokenized equity merging with crypto tokens into a single on-chain asset
πŸ”Ή Lighter's Robinhood Chain deal goes live with Lighter powering native Perps trading inside Robinhood Wallet
πŸ”Ή Vlad addresses concerns about liquidity fragmentation across separate Lighter instances
πŸ”Ή BonkDAO gets exploited as an attacker buys governance tokens and votes themselves $20 million
πŸ”Ή Robert compares the Bonk exploit to the infamous Beanstalk and Compound Humpty governance attacks
πŸ”Ή Trump's financial disclosure reveals $2.4 billion in pre-tax crypto income, sparking a debate on crypto's political future

⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Robert Leshner, Founder & CEO of Superstate

Guest
⭐️Vladimir Novakovski, Founder of Lighter

Timestamps
00:00 Intro
03:40 Tokens vs equity: the Venice VVV debate begins
06:12 Fiduciary duty, Delaware law, and Lighter's C corp structure
08:00 What happens when buyback capital runs out
12:42 Why Venice launched a token in the first place
19:18 Comparing VVV to BNB and overloaded crypto assets
25:28 Lighter's Robinhood Chain deal and native Perps launch
37:02 BonkDAO governance exploit and the $20M vote
44:02 Lessons from Beanstalk and Compound's Humpty saga
47:09 Trump's $2.4B crypto income disclosure reactions

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