Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Ondo's founder died at 32, and now his mother and its ousted president are fighting for control. Katherine, Jessi, and Vy on the succession lesson crypto keeps skipping.
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Ondo Finance co-founder and CEO Nathan Allman died suddenly this summer at 32, leaving the real-world-asset tokenizer with zero sitting directors and two people claiming to run the company: ousted president Ian De Bode, and Allman's mother Kathleen, acting for his estate.
Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, Jessi Brooks, and Vy Le use the fight to unpack a problem that has nothing to do with crypto and everything to do with it: what happens when a fast-growing company never writes down a succession plan.
They also cover the White House's new frontier AI oversight framework, which officials confirm exists but will not publish, a proposed FDIC and OCC certification that would let a fintech satisfy every bank's diligence questions at once, and the CLARITY Act's newly scheduled September 15 cloture vote, squeezed into a narrow window before midterms.
Vy Le asks the harder question underneath all three stories: can boundaries this important really be left voluntary?
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Host:
⭐️ Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, General Counsel, Host of DEX in the City and General Counsel of Chainlink - https://x.com/kkirkbos
⭐️ Jessi Brooks, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital - linkedin.com/in/jessi-brooks-8289ab32
⭐️ Vy Le - Co-host of DEX in the City and General Counsel of Veda - https://x.com/TuongvyLe12
Timestamps:
🤖 01:40 Jessi on why AI agents are getting great at goals, bad at intent
🏛️ 08:12 Why the White House's new AI framework is finished, but secret
📣 13:42 1inch Aqua: See how the shared liquidity layer works at 1inch.com/aqua
⚖️ 14:30 Ondo's board hits zero directors after founder Nathan Allman's death
🚌 20:08 KK's 'hit by a bus' rule: the succession plan every startup skips
🏦 27:06 The FDIC's plan to let one fintech certification satisfy every bank
📜 37:51 Why KK is nervous about the CLARITY Act's September cloture vote
🦥 46:16 Crypto good news: robot sloths saving an endangered species
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Ondo's founder died at 32, and now his mother and its ousted president are fighting for control. Katherine, Jessi, and Vy on the succession lesson crypto keeps skipping.
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🔥 EPISODE LINK 🔥
unchainedcrypto.com/dex-in-the-city/dex-in-the-city-a-founders-death-sparked-a-fight-for-ondos-boardroom
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Thank you to our sponsor:
👉 Visit 1inch to swap tokenized securities, crypto and more. Simple. Secure. Self-custodial. Whatever asset you’re buying - swap it at unchainedcrypto.com/go/1inch-sn
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Ondo Finance co-founder and CEO Nathan Allman died suddenly this summer at 32, leaving the real-world-asset tokenizer with zero sitting directors and two people claiming to run the company: ousted president Ian De Bode, and Allman's mother Kathleen, acting for his estate.
Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, Jessi Brooks, and Vy Le use the fight to unpack a problem that has nothing to do with crypto and everything to do with it: what happens when a fast-growing company never writes down a succession plan.
They also cover the White House's new frontier AI oversight framework, which officials confirm exists but will not publish, a proposed FDIC and OCC certification that would let a fintech satisfy every bank's diligence questions at once, and the CLARITY Act's newly scheduled September 15 cloture vote, squeezed into a narrow window before midterms.
Vy Le asks the harder question underneath all three stories: can boundaries this important really be left voluntary?
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Host:
⭐️ Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, General Counsel, Host of DEX in the City and General Counsel of Chainlink - https://x.com/kkirkbos
⭐️ Jessi Brooks, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital - linkedin.com/in/jessi-brooks-8289ab32
⭐️ Vy Le - Co-host of DEX in the City and General Counsel of Veda - https://x.com/TuongvyLe12
Timestamps:
🤖 01:40 Jessi on why AI agents are getting great at goals, bad at intent
🏛️ 08:12 Why the White House's new AI framework is finished, but secret
📣 13:42 1inch Aqua: See how the shared liquidity layer works at 1inch.com/aqua
⚖️ 14:30 Ondo's board hits zero directors after founder Nathan Allman's death
🚌 20:08 KK's 'hit by a bus' rule: the succession plan every startup skips
🏦 27:06 The FDIC's plan to let one fintech certification satisfy every bank
📜 37:51 Why KK is nervous about the CLARITY Act's September cloture vote
🦥 46:16 Crypto good news: robot sloths saving an endangered species
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#bitcoin #ethereum #crypto #cryptocurrencies
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