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The article written by Avi Loeb & Sean Kirkpatrick:
Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena: https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/LK1.pdf
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Theme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun Frearson
TIMESTAMP
00:00:30 Intro
00:07:55 Where do you start looking for extraterrestrial life & technology?
00:12:47 How do you retrieve an interstellar object from the ocean floor?
00:15:56 How do you determine if an object came from somewhere outside of the solar system?
00:19:33 How often do objects from outside the solar system come here?
00:22:59 What other promising leads does the Galileo Project have on potential anomalous interstellar objects?
00:28:21 Would the Galileo Project pursue evidence that an anomalous object came from a non-extraterrestrial source?
00:30:46 How the “mothership” article with Sean Kirkpatrick (Director of AARO) came to be and the intention behind it
00:35:26 Dr. Loeb’s thoughts on the recent Senate UAP hearings and Kirkpatrick’s “no credible evidence” statement
00:45:48 Would the Galileo Project ever work with AARO/the government in ways that would subject them to classification and hinder their ability to independently report their findings to the public?
00:48:30 If the Galileo Project does find evidence of extraterrestrial technology, when would that be shared with the public?
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The article written by Avi Loeb & Sean Kirkpatrick:
Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena: https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/LK1.pdf
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Theme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun Frearson
TIMESTAMP
00:00:30 Intro
00:07:55 Where do you start looking for extraterrestrial life & technology?
00:12:47 How do you retrieve an interstellar object from the ocean floor?
00:15:56 How do you determine if an object came from somewhere outside of the solar system?
00:19:33 How often do objects from outside the solar system come here?
00:22:59 What other promising leads does the Galileo Project have on potential anomalous interstellar objects?
00:28:21 Would the Galileo Project pursue evidence that an anomalous object came from a non-extraterrestrial source?
00:30:46 How the “mothership” article with Sean Kirkpatrick (Director of AARO) came to be and the intention behind it
00:35:26 Dr. Loeb’s thoughts on the recent Senate UAP hearings and Kirkpatrick’s “no credible evidence” statement
00:45:48 Would the Galileo Project ever work with AARO/the government in ways that would subject them to classification and hinder their ability to independently report their findings to the public?
00:48:30 If the Galileo Project does find evidence of extraterrestrial technology, when would that be shared with the public?
![[The UFO Rabbit Hole] An Interview with Dr. Avi Loeb of the Galileo Project](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o-alS-wUg_A/mqdefault.jpg "[The UFO Rabbit Hole] An Interview with Dr. Avi Loeb of the Galileo Project
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https://uforabbithole.com/podcast/an-interview-with-dr-avi-loeb-of-the-galileo-project/
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
The article written by Avi Loeb & Sean Kirkpatrick:
Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena: https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/LK1.pdf
FOLLOW THE GALILEO PROJECT
Website: https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/galileo/home
Twitter: https://twitter.com/GalileoProject1
CONTACT IN THE DESERT
See Dr. Avi Loeb, Graham Hancock, George Noory and many more incredible speakers at Contact in the Desert taking place June 2-4, 2023.
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MUSIC
Theme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun Frearson
TIMESTAMP
00:00:30 Intro
00:07:55 Where do you start looking for extraterrestrial life & technology?
00:12:47 How do you retrieve an interstellar object from the ocean floor?
00:15:56 How do you determine if an object came from somewhere outside of the solar system?
00:19:33 How often do objects from outside the solar system come here?
00:22:59 What other promising leads does the Galileo Project have on potential anomalous interstellar objects?
00:28:21 Would the Galileo Project pursue evidence that an anomalous object came from a non-extraterrestrial source?
00:30:46 How the “mothership” article with Sean Kirkpatrick (Director of AARO) came to be and the intention behind it
00:35:26 Dr. Loeb’s thoughts on the recent Senate UAP hearings and Kirkpatrick’s “no credible evidence” statement
00:45:48 Would the Galileo Project ever work with AARO/the government in ways that would subject them to classification and hinder their ability to independently report their findings to the public?
00:48:30 If the Galileo Project does find evidence of extraterrestrial technology, when would that be shared with the public?")
![Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] Live Stream](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o99DVLSqFyI/mqdefault.jpg "Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] Live Stream
Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] Live Stream")
![[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Ep 25: James Madden [Pt. 3]: The Cave, Morlocks & The Spectacle of Disclosure](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oZwRuJO6bMU/mqdefault.jpg "[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Ep 25: James Madden [Pt. 3]: The Cave, Morlocks & The Spectacle of Disclosure
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![[The UFO Rabbit Hole] UFO Disclosure News: An Interview with Christopher Sharp of Liberation Times](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pq_jbjpavrQ/mqdefault.jpg "[The UFO Rabbit Hole] UFO Disclosure News: An Interview with Christopher Sharp of Liberation Times
As predicted, 2023 has already been a massive year for the UFO disclosure movement. As we seemingly gain momentum, and with a fresh round of congressional hearings on UAPs potentially just around the corner, this felt like the perfect moment to dive into the progress made so far.
And there’s no one better for this conversation than Christopher Sharp of the Liberation Times. Chris is an independent journalist hailing from the UK who has consistently been beating the mainstream media to the punch on some of the biggest stories related to UFO disclosure. The nuance and deep investigation that he brings to his work is one of the very few beacons of true journalism in this field. Beyond his work with the Liberation Times, Chris also regularly writes for the Daily Mail.
In this episode Chris shares:
🛸 What hes hearing from his sources about the origins of the mysterious objects shot down in Feb
🛸 The surprising source for the push for disclosure
🛸 What we can expect from upcoming Congressional UFO hearings (and when those might happen)
🛸 The scandal hiding in plain sight that has Congress finally clocking in on the UFO issue
🛸 And more
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![[The UFO Rabbit Hole] The Final Episode: Its The End Of The World As We Know It](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rK4wNBzP4bE/mqdefault.jpg "[The UFO Rabbit Hole] The Final Episode: Its The End Of The World As We Know It
All good things must come to an end. And this podcast, and the international community that has sprung up around it, has been a very good thing. It’s been one of the best things in my life. Which is why it’s hard to actually say the words that this episode will be the last episode of The UFO Rabbit Hole.
But before you panic—this isn’t the end. It’s just the beginning.
Tune in to find out about the future of the podcast, and to say good-bye to The UFO Rabbit Hole.
Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality:
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Introduction and Farewell Announcement
00:59 The Evolution to Cosmosis Podcast
02:29 Introducing Co-Host J. Christopher King
03:17 What to Expect from Cosmosis
04:13 Reflecting on the UFO Rabbit Hole Journey
07:29 The Disclosure Movement
09:25 Controlled Disclosure and Its Implications
27:29 The Complexity of Whistleblowers
34:36 Centering Experiencers
36:48 Rethinking Categories and Hypotheses
41:36 The Real Mystery: Human Potential
43:55 Final Thoughts and Gratitude")
![[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Ep 4: Are UFOs Humans From The Future?](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rPGDLF95cXE/mqdefault.jpg "[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Ep 4: Are UFOs Humans From The Future?
Although the UFO phenomenon tends to be associated with extraterrestrial visitors from other worlds, could the explanation lie closer to home? Could these craft actually be humans from the future?
Since the publishing of his ground-breaking book, In Plain Sight: An Investigation Into UFOs & Impossible Science, acclaimed investigative journalist, Ross Coulthart has begun to open up about a startling claim he says is coming from his contacts at the highest levels of our government — that UFOs are future human technology.
Could this astonishing claim possibly be true? We dive into this question on this weeks episode of The UFO Rabbit Hole Podcast.
Get the full show notes along with photos, videos, declassified documents, source list, bonus materials, & more: bit.ly/ep4notes
Listen to the full interview of Ross Coulthart on Theories of Everything: bit.ly/3pqbobz
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:40 The Future Human Hypothesis
00:03:50 How Will Humans Look In The Future?
00:06:32 What Might Future Humans Be Doing Here?
00:11:04 Music Break
00:12:08 Ross Coulthardt and The Future Human Hypothesis
00:17:28 Problems With The Future Human Hypothesis
00:20:00 Is Time Travel Possible?")
![[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Ep 17: An Interview with Diana Walsh Pasulka](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rnbPV8cfYUY/mqdefault.jpg "[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Ep 17: An Interview with Diana Walsh Pasulka
In this episode, I’m bringing you an interview with one of my personal heroes, Dr. Diana Walsh Paslka. Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka is a professor of religious studies and Chair of the Department of Philosophy and Religion at the University of North Carolina, Wilmington. She holds a bachelor’s from UC Davis, a master’s from Berkeley, and a Ph.D. from Syracuse University. She is the author of Heaven Can Wait: Purgatory in Catholic Devotional and Popular Culture and American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology, which we will be discussing in this interview.
LISTEN TO THESE EPISODES FIRST
If you aren’t already familiar with Diana’s work, you’ll definitely want to start with these two episodes before listening to this interview to get the full context of our conversation.
Ep 11: Nazis & UFOs [Pt. 1]: The Emergence Of UFO Lore: https://bit.ly/ep11-notes
Ep 16: The Sky Calls To Us: The Occult Origins Of The Space Race: https://bit.ly/ep16-notes
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American Cosmic: UFO’s, Religion Technology: https://a.co/d/2lJl2Km
Heaven Can Wait: Purgatory In Catholic Devotional And Popular Culture: https://a.co/d/2lJl2Km
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MUSIC
Theme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun Frearson
TIMESTAMPS
00:00:30 Intro
00:05:03 How does a scholar of religion end up writing a book about UFOs? [Backstory of American Cosmic]
00:10:57 Why the next big breakthrough in the space program will come from the field of religious studies.
00:14:33 What can we learn from studying Tyler’s protocols?
00:18:14 What should we make of the simplicity of Tyler’s protocols?
00:22:43 What is Tyler communicating with?
00:26:07 What’s going on in the space program?
00:30:25 Civil religion & UFOs
00:34:11 Having a front row seat to the birth of a myth/belief/religion
00:38:15 Diana’s transition from UFO atheist to UFO agnostic
00:43:39 “The Question Concerning Technology” by Martin Heidegger
00:57:36 What does the Monolith in Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey tell us about the relationship between media and technology?
01:04:39 Jordan Peele’s Nope and the relationship between media and belief
01:08:32 Society of the Spectacle
01:13:17 Plato’s Cave
01:24:21 Plato’s Republic & the impossibility of justice
01:26:45 Ontological shock & re-entering the cave
01:29:34 The danger of Technology
01:34:48 What to expect from Diana’s new book")
![[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Ep 6: Mr. Delonge Goes To Washington [Pt 1]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sK7bMzgH3rM/mqdefault.jpg "[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Ep 6: Mr. Delonge Goes To Washington [Pt 1]
Hidden in plain sight, right smack dab in the middle of the growing UFO disclosure movement of the past 5 years, is a story so strange, so entirely unexpected that you wouldn’t be blamed for mistaking it for fiction — but it’s true.
While researching the events and cast of characters around the infamous New York Times article and the leaked US Navy videos that confirmed the reality of the UFO phenomenon one unlikely figure stands out among the crowd of former CIA agents, aerospace executives, and other high-ranking officials — pop runk icon, Tom Delonge.
But the notorious UFO enthusiast and former Blink 182 frontman doesn’t just make a cameo in this story — without him, there would likely have been no story to tell.
In part one of this story, we’ll explore how Tom Delonge’s early life and road to stardom set him on a collision course with this important moment in history, the shocking story of how he assembled his team for the To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences, and the pivotal role that he played in the events that led to the Pentagon’s stunning admission that UFOs are, in fact, real.
Get the full show notes along with photos, videos, source list, bonus materials, & more: bit.ly/ep6notes
Hear the full interview of Ross Coulthard on Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal: https://youtu.be/JM3kxeU_oDE
Buy Sekret Machines: Gods: Volume 1 of Gods Man & War (Gods, Man & War) by Tom Delonge and Peter Lavenda: https://amzn.to/3rbaIHU
Sekret Machines: Man: Sekret Machines Gods, Man, and War Volume 2 by Tom Delonge and Peter Lavenda: https://amzn.to/3AIMCr9
Sekret Machines Book One: Chasing Shadows by Tom DeLonge & A.J. Hartley: https://amzn.to/3rWgUmc
Sekret Machines Book Two: A Fire Within by Tom DeLonge & A.J. Hartley: https://amzn.to/32KsY1f
Music by Rival Tides: rivaltides.com
Music Break: Vultures! [Instrumental]
Outro: All My Friends Are Stoned [Instrumental]
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro Music
00:30 Intro
03:10 Tom Delonge: Early Life
04:45 Tom Delonge: Formation of Blink-182 & Career
11:08 2014: Tom Delonge’s First Encounter With The UFO Phenomenon
13:01 Tom Delonge Leaves Blink-182
13:54 To The Stars
17:36 Tom Delonge Assembles His Advisors
18:00 Music Break
20:11 The Aerospace Executive
24:46 The General
26:47 The CIA
28:46 Has Tom Delonge Lost His Mind?
30:04 The Podesta Emails
33:35 Who Were Tom Delonge’s Secret Advisors?
33:48 Aerospace Executive: Robert F. Weiss
34:15 Major General Michael Carey
34:36 Major General Neil McCasland
35:16 Tom Delonge Is Vindicated
35:56 To The Stars Academy Of Arts & Sciences
37:04 Christopher Mellon, National Security Affairs Advisor
37:38 Steve Justice (SkunkWorks), Aerospace Division Director
38:15 Dr. Hal Puthoff, Co-Founder and VP of Science & Technology
39:10 Jim Semivan (CIA), Co-Founder and VP of Operations
39:39 Luis Elizondo (AATIP), Director of Global Security & Special Programs (AATIP)
41:40 Leaked UFO Videos & The New York Times Article
42:48 Give Tom Delonge His Flowers, Dammit")
![[The UFO Rabbit Hole] The Disclosure Field Guide [Pt 1]: Ontological Shock & Getting Reoriented](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sUXs_pTlYrQ/mqdefault.jpg "[The UFO Rabbit Hole] The Disclosure Field Guide [Pt 1]: Ontological Shock & Getting Reoriented
In this episode, we explore the complexities of confronting the reality of UFO disclosure. Information that significantly challenges your worldview can be hard to process. In light of UFO whistleblower David Grusch’s recent allegations—that the US government is in possession of non-human craft and bodies—even those within the community who thought that they were ready for these kinds of revelations have found themselves reeling.
In this episode, we discuss ontological shock—what it is, how to cope with it, and how to avoid the major pitfalls. And we work on beginning to resolve our ontological shock but getting ourselves reoriented in a world where nothing is as we once thought it was.
No matter where you are in your journey, I hope this episode offers you something that you can take for the road. And if you know people who are just starting out, or who are finding themselves feeling disoriented right now in ways they can’t identify, this is a great episode to share with them.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:30 Introduction
00:05:30 Ontological Shock
00:07:29 The Signs of Ontological Shock
00:08:42 The Pitfalls of Ontological Shock
00:14:07 Resolving Ontological Shock
00:16:47 What Exactly Are We Dealing With?
00:19:00 How Has Perception of the UFO Phenomenon Changed Over Time?
00:19:11 -UFOs: 1947 to Present
00:23:48 -UFOs: Before 1947
00:29:13 What Forces Have Shaped & Influenced The Perception Of UFOs
00:29:44 -Cultural Context
00:36:47 -The Government
00:50:38 -The Media
00:57:47 -The Phenomenon
01:00:25 Who Can You Trust?")
