Uploaded January 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago

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David McCloskey, author of The Persian and The Seventh Floor, explains how he writes spies, extremists, and killers: not as cartoon villains, but as people with motives, logic, and self-justifications that feel real.

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This interview is from a Full episode of The Gist Podcast, Hosted by Mike Pesca.
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