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Robert Wright and Nikita Petrov discuss Pope Leo XIV's warnings about AI's role in war and consolidation of power, and look at how Ukraine's drone-powered "Kill Zone" is changing rules of warfare.
Exclusive Overtime discussion: nonzero.org/p/the-pope-takes-on-ai-robert-wright
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0:00 A Greek pilgrimage, a mystery guest, and a Discord revival
5:33 The first Papal encyclical devoted to AI
10:48 Pope Leo: just war theory is outdated, and AI lets humans dodge accountability
21:04 Anthropic tells the Pope about "mysterious, even unsettling" things inside AI
27:17 Inside the "Kill Zone": How drones changed the Russia-Ukraine front
33:46 Who gets replaced first: the soldier or the commander?
38:23 Russia's hypersonic missiles and nuclear signaling
48:01 Do drones favor the underdog? Plus a warning on Taiwan
50:20 The Iran ceasefire wobbles as Israel pushes back
51:59 Heading to Overtime: Greek mystery cults, Teilhard de Chardin, and Blade Runner
57:35 Enter the Mystery Guest: Jeremy Eliosoff, Pause AI Canada
Discussed in Overtime:
Pause AI.
Nikita's Greek dream retreat: oracles, black rams, sacred snakes.
Teilhard de Chardin's noosphere: a planetary brain of brains.
Kin selection, cooperating cells, and the search for connection.
Philip K Dick's vision of a holographic reality.
Waking Life.
Blade Runner 2049.
The voting on the day and time for the AI meetup is underway on the NonZero Discord server: discord.gg/Zy4jAhTQMF
Nikita x Jeremy conversation on Psychopolitica: psychopolitica.substack.com/p/metaphysical-implications-of-telepathic
Link to schedule call with Nikita: calendly.com/psychopolitica/office-hours
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Nikita Petrov (https://psychopolitica.substack.com). Recorded May 26, 2026.
Twitter: twitter.com/NonzeroPods
Robert Wright and Nikita Petrov discuss Pope Leo XIV's warnings about AI's role in war and consolidation of power, and look at how Ukraine's drone-powered "Kill Zone" is changing rules of warfare.
Exclusive Overtime discussion: nonzero.org/p/the-pope-takes-on-ai-robert-wright
Subscribe to The NonZero Newsletter at: nonzero.org/subscribe
0:00 A Greek pilgrimage, a mystery guest, and a Discord revival
5:33 The first Papal encyclical devoted to AI
10:48 Pope Leo: just war theory is outdated, and AI lets humans dodge accountability
21:04 Anthropic tells the Pope about "mysterious, even unsettling" things inside AI
27:17 Inside the "Kill Zone": How drones changed the Russia-Ukraine front
33:46 Who gets replaced first: the soldier or the commander?
38:23 Russia's hypersonic missiles and nuclear signaling
48:01 Do drones favor the underdog? Plus a warning on Taiwan
50:20 The Iran ceasefire wobbles as Israel pushes back
51:59 Heading to Overtime: Greek mystery cults, Teilhard de Chardin, and Blade Runner
57:35 Enter the Mystery Guest: Jeremy Eliosoff, Pause AI Canada
Discussed in Overtime:
Pause AI.
Nikita's Greek dream retreat: oracles, black rams, sacred snakes.
Teilhard de Chardin's noosphere: a planetary brain of brains.
Kin selection, cooperating cells, and the search for connection.
Philip K Dick's vision of a holographic reality.
Waking Life.
Blade Runner 2049.
The voting on the day and time for the AI meetup is underway on the NonZero Discord server: discord.gg/Zy4jAhTQMF
Nikita x Jeremy conversation on Psychopolitica: psychopolitica.substack.com/p/metaphysical-implications-of-telepathic
Link to schedule call with Nikita: calendly.com/psychopolitica/office-hours
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Nikita Petrov (https://psychopolitica.substack.com). Recorded May 26, 2026.
Twitter: twitter.com/NonzeroPods
