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Our American Alchemist this week is Dan Sherman.
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A former NSA electronic intelligence specialist who claims to have been part of a classified project called Project Preserve Destiny. A Cold War-era program designed to create Intuitive Communicators capable of relaying messages from non-human intelligences.
Sherman reveals chilling details from his time inside NSA facilities: retina scans, blue vans, and underground “black box” rooms where soldiers were dosed, monitored, and trained to think in frequencies. His story winds from his mother’s reported abductions to advanced DARPA research in noise-cancellation technology, scalar physics, and remote-viewing experiments that blur the line between consciousness and code.
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00:00 Intro
04:17 Above Black, “receiving” vs “downloading”
06:38 Chaotic childhood and early anomalies
08:55 SR-71 mentor and spark for patriotism
11:18 From Security Police to ELINT, Offutt AFB
13:43 NSA continuation course surprise detour
16:03 The black glass box at NSA Laurel
18:20 First classified briefing and retina access
20:44 Need-to-know culture, the onion layers
23:07 1960 alien-seeded program revealed
25:00 Mother’s abductions and “genetic management”
27:24 Tracking offspring into the military
29:47 Shock and silence, protocol over questions
36:45 “Future event” mission for Intuitive Communicators
39:10 Blue van to secret school, elevator descent
41:37 Headphones, pills, and two consoles
46:21 The “click” – mind to screen becomes real
50:49 Belief versus physics in consciousness control
53:08 From tones to symbols and meaning layers
57:57 Carrier-wave model for consciousness signaling
1:07:18 Noise Cancellation Tech and DARPA ties
1:11:38 Scalar potentials and Hal Puthoff parallels
1:14:00 Remote viewing and time-agnostic perception
1:18:50 Overseas post and new black-site detachment
1:23:16 Dual vans and secret workstations
1:29:46 First live comms – numbers and patterns
1:36:49 Rocket failure vision test
1:39:16 “Spock” – logic, structure, alien mind
1:45:04 Permission to continue beyond protocol
1:47:29 “Around time” and solar portals
1:53:36 Alien consciousness and reverence for creation
1:56:14 Project Preserve Destiny’s EM focus
2:00:36 Psy-ops or genuine contact dilemma
2:06:08 Bone induction and psychotronic tech
2:12:54 Stigmata, sainthood, and EM contact
2:17:36 Arrival at Base 2 and renewed contact
2:24:12 “Bones,” creation, and alien design
2:31:10 Ancient relationship with humanity
2:36:04 Alien travel and EM propulsion
2:40:56 Confronting ethics of abduction reports
2:46:47 Childhood anomalies and EM sensitivity
2:56:59 Synesthesia and alien cognition
2:59:39 Howard Stern Threat Calls
3:03:14 Noah Hradek, FOIA evidence, and "Project Preserve Destiny"
3:10:58 Scott Andrews and Continuation of the program
3:13:06 L'Espresso Article and Trump Disclosure
3:17:16 Base Locations Revealed!
3:20:18 Hope, Whistleblowers, and Star Trek morality
Our American Alchemist this week is Dan Sherman.
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A former NSA electronic intelligence specialist who claims to have been part of a classified project called Project Preserve Destiny. A Cold War-era program designed to create Intuitive Communicators capable of relaying messages from non-human intelligences.
Sherman reveals chilling details from his time inside NSA facilities: retina scans, blue vans, and underground “black box” rooms where soldiers were dosed, monitored, and trained to think in frequencies. His story winds from his mother’s reported abductions to advanced DARPA research in noise-cancellation technology, scalar physics, and remote-viewing experiments that blur the line between consciousness and code.
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| Dan Sherman |
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00:00 Intro
04:17 Above Black, “receiving” vs “downloading”
06:38 Chaotic childhood and early anomalies
08:55 SR-71 mentor and spark for patriotism
11:18 From Security Police to ELINT, Offutt AFB
13:43 NSA continuation course surprise detour
16:03 The black glass box at NSA Laurel
18:20 First classified briefing and retina access
20:44 Need-to-know culture, the onion layers
23:07 1960 alien-seeded program revealed
25:00 Mother’s abductions and “genetic management”
27:24 Tracking offspring into the military
29:47 Shock and silence, protocol over questions
36:45 “Future event” mission for Intuitive Communicators
39:10 Blue van to secret school, elevator descent
41:37 Headphones, pills, and two consoles
46:21 The “click” – mind to screen becomes real
50:49 Belief versus physics in consciousness control
53:08 From tones to symbols and meaning layers
57:57 Carrier-wave model for consciousness signaling
1:07:18 Noise Cancellation Tech and DARPA ties
1:11:38 Scalar potentials and Hal Puthoff parallels
1:14:00 Remote viewing and time-agnostic perception
1:18:50 Overseas post and new black-site detachment
1:23:16 Dual vans and secret workstations
1:29:46 First live comms – numbers and patterns
1:36:49 Rocket failure vision test
1:39:16 “Spock” – logic, structure, alien mind
1:45:04 Permission to continue beyond protocol
1:47:29 “Around time” and solar portals
1:53:36 Alien consciousness and reverence for creation
1:56:14 Project Preserve Destiny’s EM focus
2:00:36 Psy-ops or genuine contact dilemma
2:06:08 Bone induction and psychotronic tech
2:12:54 Stigmata, sainthood, and EM contact
2:17:36 Arrival at Base 2 and renewed contact
2:24:12 “Bones,” creation, and alien design
2:31:10 Ancient relationship with humanity
2:36:04 Alien travel and EM propulsion
2:40:56 Confronting ethics of abduction reports
2:46:47 Childhood anomalies and EM sensitivity
2:56:59 Synesthesia and alien cognition
2:59:39 Howard Stern Threat Calls
3:03:14 Noah Hradek, FOIA evidence, and "Project Preserve Destiny"
3:10:58 Scott Andrews and Continuation of the program
3:13:06 L'Espresso Article and Trump Disclosure
3:17:16 Base Locations Revealed!
3:20:18 Hope, Whistleblowers, and Star Trek morality




![My Joe Rogan Appearance: What I Learned (ft. Young Jamie & Viktor Hovland)
I reflect on my appearance on Joe Rogan while golfing with Young Jamie and Viktor Hovland. Their conversation dives deep into UFOs, ancient civilizations, and the secrets of the pyramids. They unpack the physics of anomalous objects, the shifting media narratives, and the hidden legacy of Harold Malmgren—all while questioning what Hollywood and black-budget R&D programs aren’t telling us. Thanks so much again to @joerogan!
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00:00 The Fascination with UFOs
02:57 Exploring Ancient Civilizations and the Pyramids
05:57 The Quest for Evidence and Truth
09:07 Conspiracy Theories and Government Secrecy
11:57 Debating History and Beliefs
16:35 Unveiling Harold Malmgrens Controversial Legacy
19:32 The Complexity of Advanced Technologies and Their Origins
22:41 Exploring the Physics of Anomalous Objects
25:21 The Intersection of Science, Intelligence, and UFOs
29:59 Hollywoods Influence on UFO Narratives
35:02 The Secrets of Advanced Research and Development My Joe Rogan Appearance: What I Learned (ft. Young Jamie & Viktor Hovland)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SZBI85yvV5A/mqdefault.jpg)



![NASA Doctor: “I Saw This UFO In A Secret Hangar!” (Ft. Greg Rogers)
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Our American Alchemist this week is Dr. Gregory Rogers.
He shares his extraordinary experiences as a chief flight surgeon for the US Air Force and NASA, including a shocking encounter with a UFO in 1992. He discusses the implications of David Grushs testimony regarding military involvement with alien technology, the role of EG&G in UFO research, and the mysteries surrounding Flight 19 and the Bermuda Triangle.
The conversation delves into secrecy, disclosure, and the intersection of science and the unknown.
This powerful exchange challenges us to confront the hidden truths behind UFOs, the burdens carried by those on the front lines, and the urgent call for real disclosure that could reshape our understanding of reality.
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00:00 – Introduction & 1992 UFO Encounter
01:18 – David Grusch Testimony & Military Programs
02:51 – Dr. Gregory Rogers Breaks His Silence
04:40 – Rogers’ Background in Aerospace Medicine
06:42 – Astronaut Rescue Missions & Shuttle Work
09:55 – NASA Flight Suit & Chem Light Fixes
11:04 – Flight 19 & Bermuda Triangle Anomalies
16:12 – Government Culture Around UFOs
19:16 – EG&G’s Role at Cape Canaveral
22:35 – EG&G, Area 51, & Nuclear Connections
34:10 – Major Invites Rogers to See Something Extraordinary
39:12 – Saucer Appears on Closed-Circuit Feed
43:30 – US Air Force Insignia on the Craft
47:53 – “We Got It From Them” Revelation
49:36 – Electromagnetic Discharges & Saucer Movements
56:17 – Saucer Tilts to 45° Angle of Attack
59:48 – Rogers Chooses Silence to Protect Career
01:16:02 – Retirement & Public Disclosure Begins
01:20:57 – 2017 NYT Article Sparks Change
01:26:27 – Supporting David Grusch’s Testimony
01:37:52 – PTSD, survivor’s guilt, and the weight of loss
01:39:25 – Honoring service and the burden of survival guilt
01:41:10 – A doctor’s blunt truth: “worse than dying”
01:42:24 – Faith, suffering, and purgatory on earth
01:43:31 – Genesis, the Big Bang, and cosmic microwave background
01:44:58 – First atoms, first stars, and the return of light
01:46:10 – JWST challenges the Big Bang, humility in cosmology
01:47:22 – Dark matter, cosmic inflation, and placeholder physics
01:48:49 – Chirality: life’s asymmetry and the “rigged coin”
01:50:41 – Probability, design, and arguments for God
01:52:25 – Anthropic principles: ice, constants, and fine-tuning
01:54:33 – Einstein vs the establishment: relativity and quantum
01:55:38 – Time dilation, scripture, and relativity equations
01:57:05 – Parapsychology, attention, and “seek and you shall find”
01:58:04 – Vedic tech, Vimanas, and self-guided weapons
01:58:25 – Spinning mercury in lore: TR-3, Die Glocke, and beyond
01:59:40 – Ancient models and forbidden archaeology
02:01:33 – Human propulsion breakthrough or non-human craft?
02:03:09 – Avrocar, stealth revolution, and limits of design
02:05:12 – Wright Field, Townsend Brown, and hidden projects
02:06:36 – Misdirection: flashy covers for deeper programs
02:08:42 – Powering craft: translucence, megavolts, cold fusion
02:10:22 – F-22 in 1914 thought experiment and alien tech gaps
02:12:41 – 10,000 years ahead: advanced physics as magic
02:25:32 – Disclosure today: from proof to what comes next
02:31:48 – Patches, Cold War memorabilia, and legacy closing NASA Doctor: “I Saw This UFO In A Secret Hangar!” (Ft. Greg Rogers)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TNtlzEnl8rA/mqdefault.jpg)

