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Our American Alchemists this week are the Varginha UFO witnesses. (Please note that a Portuguese audio version will be available shortly.)
A Prominent Brazilian Neurosurgeon Who Was Face To Face With a Live Alien Being for 4 Minutes, and Whose Team Did Surgery On It, Speaks To Western Media In A Long Form Interview For The First Time. A Pilot and UFO Crash Witness Who Held The Crash Material In His Hands Also Goes On Record. Finally, The Doctor Who Did The Autopsy On The Soldier Who Apprehended The Alien Being And Died From A Never-Before-Seen Infection From It Speaks Out.
In January 1996, something otherworldly crashed outside Varginha, Brazil. Within days, three young girls encountered a strange creature in an empty lot: a being with oily brown skin, a massive teardrop shaped head, huge red eyes, and three fingers on each hand. A soldier who helped capture it died from an unknown bacterial infection. And a neurosurgeon walked into a hospital room to find a non-human ET-looking entity staring back at him with a “beautiful gaze”. Now, three witnesses (a pilot who saw the craft crash, a neurosurgeon who examined the being, and a forensic doctor who autopsied the soldier) tell their stories together for the first time.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
04:53 Carlos de Sousa
9:54 The Crash and Its Aftermath
15:45 Encounters with Military Personnel
19:18 The Varginha Case Unfolds
25:54 Witnesses and Their Accounts
31:11 Investigating the Crash Site
34:09 The Emotional Toll
38:07 Men in Black
48:09 Public Scrutiny
1:00:16 Extraterrestrial Existence
1:07:52 Future Investigations
1:14:01 Hypnotic Regression
1:18:59 The Impact of UFO Encounters
1:23:01 Questions of Credibility
1:36:04 The Alien Encounter
1:36:37 Mental Connection and Hypnosis
2:09:36 Video Of Alien Being
2:21:36 The Intent of the Being
2:34:06 Emergency Surgery
2:45:24 Investigative Pursuits
3:02:10 The Aftermath
3:05:21 The Autopsy
3:23:54 Bacteria Speculations
3:37:42 Further Investigation
3:40:22 The Call for Action")
