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*Why do so many leaders know Christ deeply—yet struggle to become like him?*
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Jason Watson speaks with Herman Moldez about the often-overlooked gap between knowing Christ and becoming like him. Drawing from decades of ministry experience, Herman explores how true Christlike leadership is formed not just through knowledge and skill, but through deep inner transformation, humility, and intentional mentoring relationships.
## Main Points
- *There is a gap between knowing and becoming.* Many leaders are well-trained in Scripture but struggle to embody Christlike character because inner formation is neglected.
- *The journey from head to heart takes time.* Transformation is not automatic—what we know does not easily translate into how we live.
- *Christlike leadership is formed in hidden places.* Leaders are shaped not on the front stage, but in humility, anonymity, and faithful service.
- *Culture often shapes leaders more than Christ.* Without intentional formation, churches can produce leaders driven by success, power, or influence rather than Christlike humility.
- *Mentoring must focus on the heart.* Transformation happens through trusted relationships that ask honest, value-driven questions about motives and inner life.
- *Leaders need deep, honest friendships.* Beyond networking, leaders must cultivate “heart-to-heart” relationships where they can be known, process pain, and grow in Christlikeness.
## Call to Action
If this episode encouraged you, subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast and share it with a leader or mentor in your life. We’d also love for you to join the conversation in the Lausanne Movement Podcast space on the Lausanne Action Hub, where you can share your thoughts and engage with our global community—and please consider leaving a rating or review so others can discover the podcast too.
## Lausanne Movement Podcast Archive
- *lausanne.org/podcast/the-making-of-a-leader-how-god-forms-character-calling-and-influence-over-a-lifetime-with-richard-clinton*
- *lausanne.org/podcast/the-art-of-whole-life-mentorship-an-interview-with-ole-magnus-olasfrud*
- *lausanne.org/podcast/delphine-fanfon-on-leading-with-vulnerability-and-humility-lessons-from-the-african-church-reaching-the-next-generation-cultivating-identity-and-purpose-in-christ-and-moving-forward-from-failure*
## Links & Resources
- *MentorLink International* — mentorlink.org
- *IFES (International Fellowship of Evangelical Students)* — ifesworld.org
- *Asian Access* - a3leaders.org/
- *Lausanne Podcast Action Hub* - collaborate.lausanne.org/share/FF0jv_MJcqEcpuoK?utm_source=manual
## Guest Bio
Pastor Herman A. Moldez Served with IVCF Philippines (IFES) for 25 years, discipling and mentoring students, and 3 terms as General Secretary. In 2003, he started the ministry of mentoring pastors and Christian leaders with MentorLink International where is part of the Global Leadership Team and in 2017 started A3 (formerly Asian Access) Philippines where peer mentoring is integrated in the two-year training of 16-18 trainees per cohort. He is also the Senior Pastor of Faith Baptist Church in Quezon City, Philippines. Aside from mentoring of pastors, Pastor Herman and his wife Mercy Moldez, former Staff Training Directress of IVCF Philippines, facilitate spiritual retreats for pastors and Christian leaders.
00:00 Welcome and Setup
02:57 Head to Heart Gap
04:39 Inner Formation Retreat
06:37 Downward Mobility Leadership
10:44 Culture Shaping Churches
13:04 Value Driven Mentoring
14:57 Questions for Leaders
18:42 Mentoring Through Pain
22:38 From Networking to Heart Talk
27:04 Types of Mentoring
28:52 Accountability Friendships
30:24 Why Mentoring Feels Hard
31:09 Finding Mentors Beyond Church
33:34 Mentors vs Coaches
34:50 Lead With Anonymity
35:49 Vulnerability Builds Trust
36:47 Resources and Listening
39:10 Wisdom for Life Stages
41:25 Midlife Burnout to Beloved
44:35 Aging Slower Deeper
48:55 Final Charge to Leaders
51:45 Closing Prayer and Blessing
*Why do so many leaders know Christ deeply—yet struggle to become like him?*
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Jason Watson speaks with Herman Moldez about the often-overlooked gap between knowing Christ and becoming like him. Drawing from decades of ministry experience, Herman explores how true Christlike leadership is formed not just through knowledge and skill, but through deep inner transformation, humility, and intentional mentoring relationships.
## Main Points
- *There is a gap between knowing and becoming.* Many leaders are well-trained in Scripture but struggle to embody Christlike character because inner formation is neglected.
- *The journey from head to heart takes time.* Transformation is not automatic—what we know does not easily translate into how we live.
- *Christlike leadership is formed in hidden places.* Leaders are shaped not on the front stage, but in humility, anonymity, and faithful service.
- *Culture often shapes leaders more than Christ.* Without intentional formation, churches can produce leaders driven by success, power, or influence rather than Christlike humility.
- *Mentoring must focus on the heart.* Transformation happens through trusted relationships that ask honest, value-driven questions about motives and inner life.
- *Leaders need deep, honest friendships.* Beyond networking, leaders must cultivate “heart-to-heart” relationships where they can be known, process pain, and grow in Christlikeness.
## Call to Action
If this episode encouraged you, subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast and share it with a leader or mentor in your life. We’d also love for you to join the conversation in the Lausanne Movement Podcast space on the Lausanne Action Hub, where you can share your thoughts and engage with our global community—and please consider leaving a rating or review so others can discover the podcast too.
## Lausanne Movement Podcast Archive
- *lausanne.org/podcast/the-making-of-a-leader-how-god-forms-character-calling-and-influence-over-a-lifetime-with-richard-clinton*
- *lausanne.org/podcast/the-art-of-whole-life-mentorship-an-interview-with-ole-magnus-olasfrud*
- *lausanne.org/podcast/delphine-fanfon-on-leading-with-vulnerability-and-humility-lessons-from-the-african-church-reaching-the-next-generation-cultivating-identity-and-purpose-in-christ-and-moving-forward-from-failure*
## Links & Resources
- *MentorLink International* — mentorlink.org
- *IFES (International Fellowship of Evangelical Students)* — ifesworld.org
- *Asian Access* - a3leaders.org/
- *Lausanne Podcast Action Hub* - collaborate.lausanne.org/share/FF0jv_MJcqEcpuoK?utm_source=manual
## Guest Bio
Pastor Herman A. Moldez Served with IVCF Philippines (IFES) for 25 years, discipling and mentoring students, and 3 terms as General Secretary. In 2003, he started the ministry of mentoring pastors and Christian leaders with MentorLink International where is part of the Global Leadership Team and in 2017 started A3 (formerly Asian Access) Philippines where peer mentoring is integrated in the two-year training of 16-18 trainees per cohort. He is also the Senior Pastor of Faith Baptist Church in Quezon City, Philippines. Aside from mentoring of pastors, Pastor Herman and his wife Mercy Moldez, former Staff Training Directress of IVCF Philippines, facilitate spiritual retreats for pastors and Christian leaders.
00:00 Welcome and Setup
02:57 Head to Heart Gap
04:39 Inner Formation Retreat
06:37 Downward Mobility Leadership
10:44 Culture Shaping Churches
13:04 Value Driven Mentoring
14:57 Questions for Leaders
18:42 Mentoring Through Pain
22:38 From Networking to Heart Talk
27:04 Types of Mentoring
28:52 Accountability Friendships
30:24 Why Mentoring Feels Hard
31:09 Finding Mentors Beyond Church
33:34 Mentors vs Coaches
34:50 Lead With Anonymity
35:49 Vulnerability Builds Trust
36:47 Resources and Listening
39:10 Wisdom for Life Stages
41:25 Midlife Burnout to Beloved
44:35 Aging Slower Deeper
48:55 Final Charge to Leaders
51:45 Closing Prayer and Blessing
