Uploaded February 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen break down what’s really going on behind the scenes of combat sports — from Alexander Volkanovski’s future in the UFC to why contenders like Arman Tsarukyan get stuck in impossible positions.
The guys dive into UFC matchmaking politics, why champions lose leverage faster than fans realize, and how timing matters more than talent at the highest level. Brendan shares stories from a wild boxing weekend in New York surrounded by the sport’s power players, while Bryan reacts with classic Callen skepticism, humor, and unfiltered commentary throughout the episode.
From roasting boxing promoters to debating whether the UFC or boxing is actually better for fighters, this episode pulls back the curtain on the fight business in a way most fans never hear.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:10 Brendan sitting ringside with Bernard Hopkins
2:00 Shakur Stevenson
2:55 Brendan hosting at The Ring Awards and meeting the stars
6:35 His Excellency Turki Alalshikh
6:40 Brendan's custom suit
11:20 New best bud Max Kellerman
12:49 Brendan's girl Joanna
15:48 The Turki treatment
19:40 UFC 325 recap
26:30 Big Baby Miller's wig punched off
38:47 Current Events
Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen break down what’s really going on behind the scenes of combat sports — from Alexander Volkanovski’s future in the UFC to why contenders like Arman Tsarukyan get stuck in impossible positions.
The guys dive into UFC matchmaking politics, why champions lose leverage faster than fans realize, and how timing matters more than talent at the highest level. Brendan shares stories from a wild boxing weekend in New York surrounded by the sport’s power players, while Bryan reacts with classic Callen skepticism, humor, and unfiltered commentary throughout the episode.
From roasting boxing promoters to debating whether the UFC or boxing is actually better for fighters, this episode pulls back the curtain on the fight business in a way most fans never hear.
👇 Comment below: Is the UFC better run than boxing — or is the whole fight game broken? Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at patreon.com/tfatk
O'Reilly Auto Parts - oreillyauto.com/FIGHTER
DraftKings - Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app now and use code FIGHTER. That’s code FIGHTER to turn five bucks into three hundred in bonus bets if your bet wins.
True Classic - Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at trueclassic.com/FIGHTER! #trueclassicpod
For more The Fighter and The Kid visit: fatkz.com
Brendan's Tour Dates: fatkz.com/brendan-schaub-tour-dates
Bryan’s Tour Dates: bryancallen.com
Follow Brendan on social media:
twitter.com/brendanschaub
instagram.com/brendanschaub
Thicccboy YT
youtube.com/c/thicccboy
Follow Bryan on social media:
twitter.com/bryancallen
instagram.com/bryancallen
“Best Of” series, new episodes drop every Monday
youtu.be/LqB7FOkLwqs
TFATK Clips Channel: youtube.com/channel/UCohZMReM1dQ5BMeYOlr71mA
The Fighter and The Kid on Facebook:
facebook.com/thefighterandthekid
Listen to The Fighter and The Kid on Soundcloud: soundcloud.com/fighterandthekid
Subscribe to The Fighter and The Kid on iTunes: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fighter-the-kid/id706421907?mt=2
#TFATK
#BrendanSchaub
#UFC
#MMA
#Boxing
#FightBusiness
#mmapodcast
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:10 Brendan sitting ringside with Bernard Hopkins
2:00 Shakur Stevenson
2:55 Brendan hosting at The Ring Awards and meeting the stars
6:35 His Excellency Turki Alalshikh
6:40 Brendan's custom suit
11:20 New best bud Max Kellerman
12:49 Brendan's girl Joanna
15:48 The Turki treatment
19:40 UFC 325 recap
26:30 Big Baby Miller's wig punched off
38:47 Current Events
