The Arguments Logical Jim but Not as We Know It @paulchartley
The Arguments Logical Jim but Not as We Know It  @paulchartley
Uploaded December 2011 | Updated September 2026, 23 hours ago
Over the past couple of weeks I have been having a debate of sorts with a user called Chad Elliott who has proposed a logical argument that he says is completely undefeated

His argument is that ...

If you reject the logical notion of an eternal uncreated creator creating the universe then you must instead choose a proposal that is a variation of time and space being eternal or that something came into existence out of pure nothing and created the universe and that both of these two proposals are completely irrational and illogical and that this proves that all atheists are illogical and irrational

Yes I know, I can think of a logical proposal that is neither of these two as well.

I told him so and this sparked of our little email exchange.

I wouldn't advise trying this yourself as chad is a bit of an imbecile, insisting that you outline and describe a cause when you tell him that there is no cause and asking you how things are created when you say there was no creator.

He has some real problems with his own acronyms, describing STE to mean Space and Time are Eternal and that this includes ANY concept of space and time and that such a thing is illogical but at the same time putting forth a logical proposition that states that you have an eternal creator that created the universe which must exist in some concept of eternal space and time to actually be present and do things.

I am guessing that Chad Elliott is a fantastic example of why we turn to theoretical physicists and mathematicians for an explanation of the origins or the universe and not meat-headed American football players who perform really bad rap songs.

It goes without saying that I defeated his argument several times over and so he blocked me from leaving comments on his channel and sending him personal messages after I started copy/pasting the same set of answers back to the identical and repetitive set of questions he kept sending me.

Finally, a message to Chad

CONSTANTLY WRITING IN ALL CAPS MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A TWAT
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