PurpleSun | [TAS] SMG2: Beat Block Comet in 0xA presses [Mario] @PurpleSunTAS | Uploaded 3 years ago | Updated 4 minutes ago
This saves 0.5x over the previous count, grabbing the star without needing the extra spin height from holding A by using some edge tech explained below.
Beat Block is now completely 0xA.
Most of this run was mucking about with all the ways to avoid death such as wallspinning onto a changing block and ground pounding inside a floor to regain spin.
I also sometimes used an airspin cancel to land earlier, pressing Z just above ground during a spin.
The star grab involved landing on the edge of the floor in neutral so Mario would 'slide' off, but this slide gains a bit of height, so that, when holding backwards, it is possible to "hover" over a small bit of ground and still be able to spin in the air, getting close enough that the spin can grab the star.
This tech was previously seen here: youtu.be/OSxe7LyYhC8
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #AButtonChallenge
This saves 0.5x over the previous count, grabbing the star without needing the extra spin height from holding A by using some edge tech explained below.
Beat Block is now completely 0xA.
Most of this run was mucking about with all the ways to avoid death such as wallspinning onto a changing block and ground pounding inside a floor to regain spin.
I also sometimes used an airspin cancel to land earlier, pressing Z just above ground during a spin.
The star grab involved landing on the edge of the floor in neutral so Mario would 'slide' off, but this slide gains a bit of height, so that, when holding backwards, it is possible to "hover" over a small bit of ground and still be able to spin in the air, getting close enough that the spin can grab the star.
This tech was previously seen here: youtu.be/OSxe7LyYhC8
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #AButtonChallenge
![[TAS] SMG2: Beat Block Comet in 0xA presses [Mario]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IDk6kXSYTIo/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Beat Block Comet in 0xA presses [Mario]
This saves 0.5x over the previous count, grabbing the star without needing the extra spin height from holding A by using some edge tech explained below.
Beat Block is now completely 0xA.
Most of this run was mucking about with all the ways to avoid death such as wallspinning onto a changing block and ground pounding inside a floor to regain spin.
I also sometimes used an airspin cancel to land earlier, pressing Z just above ground during a spin.
The star grab involved landing on the edge of the floor in neutral so Mario would slide off, but this slide gains a bit of height, so that, when holding backwards, it is possible to hover over a small bit of ground and still be able to spin in the air, getting close enough that the spin can grab the star.
This tech was previously seen here: https://youtu.be/OSxe7LyYhC8
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #AButtonChallenge")
![[TAS] SMG2: Rightside Down GS2 in 52.05](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ikq9CPZoGRk/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Rightside Down GS2 in 52.05
Green Stars TAS WIP
(As GS1 is pretty much the same but shorter, I will upload that on 2nd channel or something
UPDATE: Full Rightside Down Greens: https://youtu.be/7mOTGZ0-b-Y)
52.05 IGT - 15:25.05 real-time split - 1:48.97 segment
Starting with a wall blip, grabbing the very bottom of the wall to immediately fall off (+ ratio) which saves 15 frames getting to the flower over a Goomba bounce.
The backwards strat from the ? block and down the slope is over 1 second faster than forwards strats. It also nicely sets up a long jump into the next backwards strat.
This strat (a suggestion by Yaasd Palala soon after I uploaded a 45.28 IL TAS of GS1) involves turning around at the gravity change to get a sideflip and then spinning backwards onto the Goomba and threading through the gap past the elevating platforms. Overall it also saves over 1 second compared to the strat I did in that previous IL (https://youtu.be/CdOdK9QOn4U?t=26).
The spin had to be a little slow in the air, however, in order to manipulate the Thwomps that start their cycle as soon as you are past the upside-down black and yellow ledge. If I moved across that while still in the air, it would barely miss the cycle. Slowing down in the air to have more speed to make the cycle saved 20 frames overall.
The slope and momentum conserved jump strat was 22 frames faster than the long jump spin wallkick spin done in my previous IL. Much of the timesave comes from the wallkick itself, as running speed can be maintained from it by landing with neutral control stick.
The crate part is really weird but theres not much room to do fast-looking movement; its all down to when you break the crates and what you can do while theyre breaking and falling.
I had movement that improved to the gravity shift by 3 frames, but it didnt maintain running speed so lost 12 frames at the final crates. I assume the running speed conservation that this run gets is gained from the long jump off the edge and somehow kept through a quick sideflip and backflip. Running speed conservation is still not fully understood.
In the ending, a lot of speed is gained off the moving platform and then conserved into a triple jump and little single jump. The double jump required landing in neutral to conserver speed, but somehow the triple jump and single jump didnt require that.
The star grab is reliant on how early you enter the 2D section; entering from the front slowly drags you in so you have to wait for the star to be accessible.
This meant the earliest long jump that gets over the edge would be faster than being as far right as possible, which is why the single jump was used over another long jump.
Horizontal speed was kept in the 2D section by holding down-right.
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![[TAS demo] SMG2: Hightail Falls GS3 in 59.60s (dash pepper ending)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IlklCoR-V2A/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS demo] SMG2: Hightail Falls GS3 in 59.60s (dash pepper ending)
WARNING: there are a lot of dark flashes in this video. May be a concern for those with epilepsy and/or other sensitivities to sudden changes in light.
sub 1 min yay
Bunny hopping with Dash Pepper is faster in most cases: top running speed is 32.4 hspd, but a jump gets an initial 1-frame burst of 60-something (it varies between 63 and 69), 32 until near the peak of the jump, and then rises to 34.x (again it varies, 34.3 - 34.7 was the general range) until landing. Landing dips to ~28.5, lowering the average speed, but it is ultimately a faster average speed than running, and hopping will limit the speed lost from landing.
This is annoying visually, as each single jump darkens the screen. Id understand if its too disorienting for some to watch. Note that this doesnt happen on console so there might be some Dolphin setting I can change to fix it. UPDATE: Yeah, its Dolphins issue, was actually fixed just a few days ago (assuming boss roar effects are the same as Dash effects https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/issues/8327), but we use 5.0 stable for SMG for a custom LUA build.
For reference, if you were to run up the big ramp, bunny hopping from the top would get to the launch star 10 frames earlier than the normal strat of running and only jumping to get up the small ramp.
When first mounting Yoshi, bouncing backwards off the Paragoomba is 0.9s faster than running up the ramp to the first Pepper. This could be pushed further with a sideways-leaning flutter to get an earlier edge jump up the ramp.
Speaking of which, this edge jump saved 17 frames over running up the ramp. Edge jumps with Dash Pepper have a significant vertical boost when going up a ramp or wall, which is used several times here and has been used in IL runs for a long time, such as this strat by LogitechSDAZ way back in 2010: https://youtu.be/Z2eRSdntn9Q?t=17
At the start of the next section, jump cancel was 2f faster than camera cancel.
Going to the extension on the right and getting an edge jump was faster than going up the left by 28 frames.
Im not sure if jump cancel is faster than camera cancel for the next section, as the jump is going sideways rather than forwards. Need to test that further.
Bunny hopping saved a few frames throughout this section, but for the last stone platform, hopping was too fast to execute jdas fast flutter strat (https://youtu.be/okIXn d3uk) which needs you to be on the platform as it starts falling.
The ending route needs much more experimenting, but I found this dash pepper route to be 27 frames (0.45s) faster than its closest competitor (continuing the fast flutter across to the flower grapples to grab the star the intended way).
I did an edge jump off the blue ramp, holding down-left to strain back and leftwards onto the ramp above, and then continued dashing up the ramp.
From here I tried two different ideas: jumping off the wall to have backwards speed into the star, and sideflipping off the wall to have initially faster forwards speed. As the forwards speed slowed down, the single jump strat came out on top by 0.8s.
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![[TAS] Wii FAST Racing League Ion Shima League in 5:32.50](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ItOBCvu-u0Y/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Wii FAST Racing League Ion Shima League in 5:32.50
This is a tool-assisted speedrun of the WiiWare game FAST Racing League, completing the Shima league in the Ion engine class.
TAS time: 5:32.50 (starts on boot up, ends on A press exiting podium to credits)
RTA time: 4:54.80 (starts on vehicle select, ends crossing the line in The Rig)
Its recommended to watch this in 1440p - the frame dump isnt 1440p, but I had to upscale it in VLC so YouTube would use a transcoder with a good bitrate.
I started this Feb 2018, but hadnt worked on it since May of that year, because I lost motivation for it. Had hoped Id regain motivation, but Im scrapping it, for these two reasons:
1) This TAS isnt as optimised as it could be. Sometimes I forgot racing lines existed, and it looks stiff at times without a good flow of movement.
On top of that, theres a ridiculously precise trick I stumbled upon in Turbine Canyon that gets a shorter jump from the jumppad, saving nearly 0.6s per lap. I couldnt replicate it despite a lot of effort, so I moved on without it: https://youtu.be/YqC5Act2vK4
Plus, this run uses Classic Controller, as I wasnt sure how reliable Wiimote was for TASing when starting out. Classic Controllers analog only has 64 values for each axis, whereas even the Nunchuk has 256; a much larger range for fine tuning.
2) DivisionX and FighBat had said a while ago that they had messed around in the vehicle & colour select menus and somehow the tournaments only lasted 2 or 3 races instead of the intended 4. So, if this is a reliable manipulation, this All Leagues, Ion class TAS would be obsolete, and even more unoptimised. Would be nice to have All Leagues use that manipulation and then have an All Tracks using Time Trials.
So its free to be restarted. Ill be working on Super Mario Galaxy from now on, but who knows, I could do this again sometime (or if someone else wants to give it a go, let me know - I have some notes of tricks and orb routes that could be helpful, which you can see here: https://pastebin.com/ye7D9cb3 and a playlist of bits here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNOUOE9YHiMQlBpEkCp2Z0li0CAS4hxWz ).
#ToolAssistedSpeedrun")
![[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Tall Trunk Green Star 2 in 22.78s](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JawBPjpTBXU/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Tall Trunk Green Star 2 in 22.78s
Luigi climbs a tree and then pranks Yoshi by breaking the egg and leaving in 22.78 seconds [IGT, 1367 frames].
I have a whole backlog of Green Star TASes to upload but I keep moving on to new galaxies instead, so this is a start.
This follows the typical speedrun route, triple jump walljumping to the first ledge, long jumping over, with a little change in the sideflip being instant and using neutral walljump strain to help land on the right-hand side of it, rather than going for the left, and finally a backflip walljump to the launch star.
For this last walljump, I held neutral just before landing to keep momentum and be able to instantly long jump.
In retrospect, it should be tested to see if a backflip walljump with enough strain can make it from the first ledge straight to the third (second Blimp fruit).
On the second planet, the spin after the backflip was used to land on the second step, as then just a backflip with no spin could bounce off the Yoshi egg, which was faster than other strategies.
After the ground pound, I actually had to walk to the left for 1 frame, then turn around to the right for a few frames before backflipping, as for some strange reason (not a horizontal position thing, I checked with a few different horizontal points), this made me hit the ceiling in such a way that I started falling a little later than normal, allowing me to get over the edge, and then spin to the star.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #ToolAssistedSpeedrun")
![[TAS] SMG2: Flash Black 1 megasideflip route improved](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JypC4LjAAyc/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Flash Black 1 megasideflip route improved
This route saves ~1.5 seconds over a route using goryuyas triple jump to the first platform. It saves ~4 seconds over using Yoshi all the way.
The intro movement could be 20f faster but I couldnt replicate this megasideflip with the better movement.
I think there could be a perfect msf that gets straight up onto the platform - this msf alone (when optimised for height) was able to reach the bottom of the platform, but I needed to hold right going away from the wall to get that much height, so instead I went lower and grabbed the wall.
Because of how Mario is slowly dragged into the middle of a 2D section when entering from the front, it was slower to go right and bounce off the Goomba because you have to wait for Mario to be far enough inside to actually hit the Goomba.
Were you able to bounce immediately, it couldve been a handful of frames faster than going left.
Zoom zoom on the pumpkin because bouncing on unstompable enemies can have bizarre effects.
As it turns out, you can get huge Blimp speed from a Paragoomba. Originally the strat was to freeze it with P2 and then pass through it and let go at the right moment to get a bounce off it, but it turns out you can spin the Paragoomba and its recoil can push Blimp Yoshi far out (might also have a proxy/clipping involved).
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #ToolAssistedSpeedrun")
![[TAS] SMG2: Freezy Flake 2 in 0.5xA presses [Mario]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K-u4iD_XDXw/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Freezy Flake 2 in 0.5xA presses [Mario]
Like some of the last few ABC vids, this doesnt improve on the levels A press count, but confirms Mario can match Luigi, saving the menuing A press of unlocking the Luigi Ghost.
I had tried a while ago to get Mario working with the star grab strat but had no luck. This time I understood how to get a bit more out of backwards slope sliding by having a bit more backwards speed in the air before landing, and curving more to the side before spinning.
#SuperMarioGalaxy2 #AButtonChallenge")
![[TAS] SMG2: Twin Falls Hideaway in 5xA (6xA) Presses [Mario]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K3kzBcKwCFk/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Twin Falls Hideaway in 5xA (6xA) Presses [Mario]
The gameplay A presses are:
#1-5: Backflip + wallkicks to get up the waterfalls
There is also an A press for dialogue.
This was previously 6x for Mario, 5x for Luigi. So not an actual save, but, if Mario can match (or better) Luigi for all stars in a galaxy, it would save the A press of the textbox notifying a Luigi ghost appearing. Unless, of course, we can get 9999 coins in less A presses than the number of galaxies Luigi is better at. But that means coins.
Now all that is left for Cosmic Cove is the 3rd A press of Exploring the Cosmic Cavern/GS2/GS3, jumping from the first platform of the 3rd section.
The main save of this level is the megaledgegrab, which can only be done on the left platform. This is where Mario grabs a janky ledge, or grabs a ledge too early - possibly from being right under it or with a certain vertical speed or something else - and automatically jumps out of the grab (no A presses required) because he cant hold on. Sometimes this can get a lot of height.")
![[TAS] SMG2: Freezy Flake Green Star 3 in 12.98s](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K5xMO-TfyCI/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] SMG2: Freezy Flake Green Star 3 in 12.98s
Luigi flies in a rock to collect a Green Star in 12.98 seconds [IGT, 779 frames].
For details on the rock mid-air jumps, heres Joselles doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13HenHN3IA2mQih2k8Ve_VZdK-yIoX8fnXB2g2eMaZGM/edit
This isnt hyper-optimised, but proves that a direct route to the star is possible, improving the original find by exactly 10 seconds (most timesave from not taking an age to line up the rock, direct route saves at least ~1.3s): https://youtu.be/rn49DkVopQ0
Jumping away from the first planet causes a curve that mostly affects Z-axis movement.
I needed to delay the last mid-air before changing gravity to align the curve properly on the Z axis in order to be close enough to swing around towards the stars low platform.
The other delayed mid-airs are what could be optimised better. I did a few close together and then had to leave one or two spaced out, losing some hspd along the way. I needed to delay them to be low enough to drop down to the star, but they could be spaced out better for higher overall hspd.
For some reason you always get swung around when entering the foggy sections gravity, so aiming a properly straight line from the start might not be viable.
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![[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Boulder Bowl L in 39.86s](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KNzjwXgQYnk/hqdefault.jpg "[TAS] Super Mario Galaxy 2: Boulder Bowl L in 39.86s
Luigi and P2 break a Goomba out of its rock and give it to an obsessed robot in 39.86 seconds [IGT, 2392 frames].
L stands for Letter, as this star is only available when receiving a letter from the Gearmo.
On a recent surge of timing textboxes for a language comparison sheet, I finally tried out an idea for Boulder Bowl L of getting a rock mid-air straight to the Goomba rocks.
This strat is 6.7s faster than the RTA strat that forgoes the first Rock Mushroom and long jumps from the ramp behind the bridge.
Half of the timesave comes from P2 hitting two of the three Octoombas protecting the Rock Mushroom.
Hitting the Goomba with a starbit before talking to the Gearmo saved several frames as, while there are 3 frames of hitlag, the knockback speed is faster than its running speed, plus it stops just before the cage with this movement so it wouldve taken longer to get an instant capture without the starbit shot.
Looking back at this, it may be even faster to grab more starbits and starbit shoot the Goomba the entire way. This would require a lot of trial and error with precise IR inputs, as starbit knockback has a lot of curve to it and lateral hits are very finicky.
It is not possible to get a textbox skip - you are able to get the textbox noise and the camera zooms in as if it started the interaction, but there is no useful effect i.e. the cage doesnt spawn.
My theory of how textbox skips work is that you press A while leaving the MessageArea (without moving from joystick input, so walking or sliding out wont work) so the game counts the A press to start the interaction, but realises you are outside the area, so it ends the interaction: closing the final textbox. For the Lumas in Sky Station, ending the interaction would trigger their transformation, so that happens with the skip.
But here the cage spawns *during* the interaction, so starting and ending it at the same time will skip the spawn, so you get nothing.
Backflipping into the star saved 5 frames over starting a rock spin. I started a rock spin when grabbing the star for the fun of it, no frames lost or saved.
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