Uploaded April 2026 | Updated September 2026, 6 hours ago
Today we sit with our very first guest of Season Five - therapist and bestselling author Nedra Glover Tawwab, who talks about what it means to “take life seriously” through intention, and why success doesn’t have to start perfectly. Her new book, The Balancing Act, is about learning the difference between “tolerable annoyance and abuse and neglect,” so we stop cutting people off for normal friction and end up lonelier. She reminds us, “we are in charge of our phone,” and sometimes the healthiest move is just not answering, without turning it into a relationship-ending talk.
What is a healthy community? Tawwab jokes about how important our interactions are, even with the baristas at our local cafe. Every interaction, especially the reliable day-to-day interactions hold value, and often can be healthier than the relationships we put the weight of expectations on.
We also elaborate on "how useful it is to know how you show up in the world" and not get pigeonholed into an attachment style. Therapy and our conversations shared within those sessions are to help us identify our patterns and why and how they show up, and create outcomes that don't align with our desires. Tawwab points out these scenarios, how they’ve shown up in her life, and allowed her to acknowledge how she’s grown.
As always, we end the episode with soul-work. Nedra offers the question: “What is your relationship with offering people grace, extending it to yourself as well?
Airbnb Experience: Find your calm in a meditation with Devi Brown
Connect: @DeviBrown @DeeplyWellPodcast
Read: "Living in Wisdom" DeviBrown.com Now Available!
The Deeply Well Podcast is available on:
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3n5hEIV…
Youtube: youtube.com/@DeviBrownWell-Being
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Deeply Well
Where higher consciousness meets the complexity of being human.
Hosted by Well-Being Master Teacher and multi-disciplinary healer
Devi Brown, Deeply Well is a soft place to land for those navigating the quiet, courageous work of becoming whole. Through soul-expanding conversations, guided meditations, and our signature Soul Work, each episode explores what it truly means to heal, to rewire, and to return—to your body, your truth, and your unique path. Created for the seekers, the sensitives, the creatives, and anyone reclaiming peace in a world that often overwhelms, Deeply Well invites you into presence, clarity, and self-mastery—one breath, one practice, one guest at a time.
Devi Brown is the founder of Devi Brown Well-Being, and the author of Living in Wisdom and Crystal Bliss. Her work honors the sacred complexity of healing and guides you gently back to yourself—again and again.
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Moments to Consider:
0:00 Welcome to Deeply Well with our first guest of the season Nedra Tawwab.
2:30 35 languages and taking your life seriously.
5:22 Staying centered in a world of purpose across multiple industries.
12:28 Nedra shares her motivation and hope for her new book, The Balancing Act.
15:40 Addressing the different layers of codependency.
22:00 Relearning how to be in community, feeding your ecosystem.
24:40 Devi and Nedra, speak to the value of incorporating beauty in your life in adulthood.
31:36 Let’s talk about healthy community, friendship and change.
34:29 A more holistic view, options that meet our natural need for silence and meditation.
41:00 Attachment styles, knowing how you show up, change and welcome new relationships.
52:29 How do you hold your boundaries in friendship?
55:28 Rapid fire questions!
1:00:08 Nedra’s Soul Work: What is your relationship with offering people grace?
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Connect with Nedra:
Website nedratawwab.com
Instagram: instagram.com/nedratawwab
Nedra’s Book, The Balancing Act: nedratawwab.com/books/the-balancing-act
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Connect with Devi:
Website: devibrownwellbeing.com
Substack: substack.com/@devibrown
Living In Wisdom Book: devibrown.com/book
Instagram: instagram.com/devibrown
Instagram: instagram.com/deeplywellpod
Merch: devibrown.myshopify.com
Threads: threads.com/@devibrown
✺
Devi Brown is a Master Well-Being Educator & Healer, Advisor, Storyteller and Founder of Devi Brown Well-Being. The celebrated voice of daily meditation on the Chopra App and host of the iHeart media podcast, Deeply Well, Brown’s teachings have reached millions of seekers globally and counting. She serves as a well-being advisor for private, high-impact clientele and for Fortune 500 companies, including Chase, Microsoft, Chopra Global, and Overtime. With teachings rooted in spiritual psychology, advanced meditation, metaphysics, energy healing and trauma-informed facilitation, Brown’s mission is centered in the process of individual liberation that leads to community impact and an elevation of consciousness for all beings.
Today we sit with our very first guest of Season Five - therapist and bestselling author Nedra Glover Tawwab, who talks about what it means to “take life seriously” through intention, and why success doesn’t have to start perfectly. Her new book, The Balancing Act, is about learning the difference between “tolerable annoyance and abuse and neglect,” so we stop cutting people off for normal friction and end up lonelier. She reminds us, “we are in charge of our phone,” and sometimes the healthiest move is just not answering, without turning it into a relationship-ending talk.
What is a healthy community? Tawwab jokes about how important our interactions are, even with the baristas at our local cafe. Every interaction, especially the reliable day-to-day interactions hold value, and often can be healthier than the relationships we put the weight of expectations on.
We also elaborate on "how useful it is to know how you show up in the world" and not get pigeonholed into an attachment style. Therapy and our conversations shared within those sessions are to help us identify our patterns and why and how they show up, and create outcomes that don't align with our desires. Tawwab points out these scenarios, how they’ve shown up in her life, and allowed her to acknowledge how she’s grown.
As always, we end the episode with soul-work. Nedra offers the question: “What is your relationship with offering people grace, extending it to yourself as well?
Airbnb Experience: Find your calm in a meditation with Devi Brown
Connect: @DeviBrown @DeeplyWellPodcast
Read: "Living in Wisdom" DeviBrown.com Now Available!
The Deeply Well Podcast is available on:
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3n5hEIV…
Youtube: youtube.com/@DeviBrownWell-Being
✺
Deeply Well
Where higher consciousness meets the complexity of being human.
Hosted by Well-Being Master Teacher and multi-disciplinary healer
Devi Brown, Deeply Well is a soft place to land for those navigating the quiet, courageous work of becoming whole. Through soul-expanding conversations, guided meditations, and our signature Soul Work, each episode explores what it truly means to heal, to rewire, and to return—to your body, your truth, and your unique path. Created for the seekers, the sensitives, the creatives, and anyone reclaiming peace in a world that often overwhelms, Deeply Well invites you into presence, clarity, and self-mastery—one breath, one practice, one guest at a time.
Devi Brown is the founder of Devi Brown Well-Being, and the author of Living in Wisdom and Crystal Bliss. Her work honors the sacred complexity of healing and guides you gently back to yourself—again and again.
✺
Moments to Consider:
0:00 Welcome to Deeply Well with our first guest of the season Nedra Tawwab.
2:30 35 languages and taking your life seriously.
5:22 Staying centered in a world of purpose across multiple industries.
12:28 Nedra shares her motivation and hope for her new book, The Balancing Act.
15:40 Addressing the different layers of codependency.
22:00 Relearning how to be in community, feeding your ecosystem.
24:40 Devi and Nedra, speak to the value of incorporating beauty in your life in adulthood.
31:36 Let’s talk about healthy community, friendship and change.
34:29 A more holistic view, options that meet our natural need for silence and meditation.
41:00 Attachment styles, knowing how you show up, change and welcome new relationships.
52:29 How do you hold your boundaries in friendship?
55:28 Rapid fire questions!
1:00:08 Nedra’s Soul Work: What is your relationship with offering people grace?
✺
Connect with Nedra:
Website nedratawwab.com
Instagram: instagram.com/nedratawwab
Nedra’s Book, The Balancing Act: nedratawwab.com/books/the-balancing-act
✺
Connect with Devi:
Website: devibrownwellbeing.com
Substack: substack.com/@devibrown
Living In Wisdom Book: devibrown.com/book
Instagram: instagram.com/devibrown
Instagram: instagram.com/deeplywellpod
Merch: devibrown.myshopify.com
Threads: threads.com/@devibrown
✺
Devi Brown is a Master Well-Being Educator & Healer, Advisor, Storyteller and Founder of Devi Brown Well-Being. The celebrated voice of daily meditation on the Chopra App and host of the iHeart media podcast, Deeply Well, Brown’s teachings have reached millions of seekers globally and counting. She serves as a well-being advisor for private, high-impact clientele and for Fortune 500 companies, including Chase, Microsoft, Chopra Global, and Overtime. With teachings rooted in spiritual psychology, advanced meditation, metaphysics, energy healing and trauma-informed facilitation, Brown’s mission is centered in the process of individual liberation that leads to community impact and an elevation of consciousness for all beings.
