Uploaded March 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
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Even though travel writer Rick Steves is best known for his guide books about Europe, he's no stranger to the Middle East. He first traveled to the region in 1978, when he was 23, and then returned to Iran in 2009 for an episode of his PBS show.
In a conversation with Death, Sex & Money host Anna Sale, Rick explains why he made that episode and why it's important get an up-close look at a country the U.S. is attacking: "It's real people, and if 150 little school girls were killed in our country, life would grind to a halt, but if we do it in their country it's just collateral damage."
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Video production by Micah Phillips.
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Even though travel writer Rick Steves is best known for his guide books about Europe, he's no stranger to the Middle East. He first traveled to the region in 1978, when he was 23, and then returned to Iran in 2009 for an episode of his PBS show.
In a conversation with Death, Sex & Money host Anna Sale, Rick explains why he made that episode and why it's important get an up-close look at a country the U.S. is attacking: "It's real people, and if 150 little school girls were killed in our country, life would grind to a halt, but if we do it in their country it's just collateral damage."
To listen to the full conversation on an upcoming episode, subscribe to Death, Sex & Money wherever you listen to podcasts.
Video production by Micah Phillips.
Note: Captions are auto-generated by YouTube.
Learn more: slate.com/podcasts/death-sex-money
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